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vidic
terry
ferdinand
cahill
samba
shawcross
dawson
king
luiz
dunne
agger
ferdinand
vermaelen
alex
carragher
kompany
jagielka

I would go on but i might hurt your feelings.


Obvious reasons. Mainly resiliance, consistancy, marking and aerial ability.

Out of that list only Rio,Vidic,Kompany and Terry where better than him last season.
 
<doh> my oh my you are a busy boy aren't you? Capital letters are to get a point across - Koscielny is awful in comparison to the defenders in my previous post. Thanks.

Where are the examples of his awful performances you talk about, though? He is clearly not 'awful' compared to any of those defenders you named. And infact had a better season then most of those.
 
Where are the examples of his awful performances you talk about, though? He is clearly not 'awful' compared to any of those defenders you named. And infact had a better season then most of those.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. No way, I'm outta here. Climb out your teams crack geez.
 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. No way, I'm outta here. Climb out your teams crack geez.

Still not given me these games where he was 'awful'. Not suprised, because he did not have many. I asked you a simple question and you failed to reply. Run along now.
 
vidic
terry
ferdinand
cahill
samba
shawcross
dawson
king
luiz
dunne
agger
ferdinand
vermaelen
alex
carragher
kompany
jagielka

I would go on but i might hurt your feelings.


Obvious reasons. Mainly resiliance, consistancy, marking and aerial ability.



SNAP
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Still not given me these games where he was 'awful'. Not suprised, because he did not have many. I asked you a simple question and you failed to reply. Run along now.

I'm not giving them because you still haven't realised the point I'm making <doh>
 
I'm not giving them because you still haven't realised the point I'm making <doh>

No. Your point was that he was 'awful' and you said you had examples where he was 'awful' in these games, because i told you that 2 examples does not make him awful. I then aksed you to point out these other games which you have failed to do.
 
In no particular order;

1) Vidic
2) Kompany
3) Jagielka
4) Terry
5) Alex
6) Rio
7) Ivanovic
8) Evans - not even United fans rate him anymore, United bias showing
9) Vermaelen
10) Huth - big, physical bruiser who is great aerially but has no pace or technical ability
11) Dann
12) Cahill
13) Smalling - based upon what? Barely played!
14) Samba
15) Lescott
16) Carragher - well passed it, he relies upon his experience. One more season at the top, in my opinion
17) Hangeland
18) Upson - so good that his team finished bottom of the Prem
19) Agger - based upon what... he can strike a ball well?
20) Shawcross
21) Toure - not anymore, can't even play
22) Collins - which one? Well it doesn't matter, both James and Danny are average defenders. Not world beaters
23) Woodgate - so good that he was released and had to sign a desperate pay-as-you-play deal at Stoke
24) Dawson
25) King - I don't understand the King love-in people have. He's a liability against pace and can't play more than 2 games in a row


Sort of getting tired now but you get the picture.....
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The ones I haven't bolded I either agree with or I haven't seen enough of them to judge. But towards the end you were just naming random defenders!
 
No. Your point was that he was 'awful' and you said you had examples where he was 'awful' in these games, because i told you that 2 examples does not make him awful. I then aksed you to point out these other games which you have failed to do.

How on God's green earth am I supposed to name EVERY SINGLE game he performed badly in?! I'd have to have the memory of a psychic. The fact I said he was awful suggests he played badly in the majority of his games. His pace, agility are good and his 1v1 defending isn't as brilliant as you made out but still it's one of his good points. Marking, aerial, strength, resiliance, aggression, bravery and decision making are all poor. Like I said, ask anyone who ISN'T an Arsenal fan.
 
Look let's just agree to disagree, I can't be arsed to argue with Goons (literally)
 
How on God's green earth am I supposed to name EVERY SINGLE game he performed badly in?! I'd have to have the memory of a psychic. The fact I said he was awful suggests he played badly in the majority of his games. His pace, agility are good and his 1v1 defending isn't as brilliant as you made out but still it's one of his good points. Marking, aerial, strength, resiliance, aggression, bravery and decision making are all poor. Like I said, ask anyone who ISN'T an Arsenal fan.

Because if he was awful and as bad as you say in these games then you should be able to remember at least some of them. His one on one defending is not good, its outstanding. He has plenty of agression,resiliance,strength and bravery. I remember him going into aerial battles with Davies and winning most of them. And that is not even his strong point.
 
Because if he was awful and as bad as you say in these games then you should be able to remember at least some of them. His one on one defending is not good, its outstanding. He has plenty of agression,resiliance,strength and bravery. I remember him going into aerial battles with Davies and winning most of them. And that is not even his strong point.

Well you've just gone and plain overrated him <doh>

Like I have said twice, ASK ANYONE WHO ISN'T AN ARSENAL FAN
 
Carles Puyol is a class act. Koscielny is so far outside that title it's unreal.
 
And also, Sagna and Verm are class, your defence is reportedly by every pundit and fan across the land as being the worst part of Arsenal, so last season it was just Clichy who helped gained that reputation? Koscielny is poop.
 
And also, Sagna and Verm are class, your defence is reportedly by every pundit and fan across the land as being the worst part of Arsenal, so last season it was just Clichy who helped gained that reputation? Koscielny is poop.

First, Verm did not even play last season. Sagna is good and solid. Clichy was a very weak part in our defensive lines. And Djourou was good in parts of the season while Squillaci is just plain awful.

Kos was far and away the best thing about our defence last season. Also its not just about having a good defence, you have to defend as a team. And at Arsenal that is not done. So a guy like Kos has to work overtime to put out fires. That is why i rate him so much.
 
First, Verm did not even play last season. Sagna is good and solid. Clichy was a very weak part in our defensive lines. And Djourou was good in parts of the season while Squillaci is just plain awful.

Kos was far and away the best thing about our defence last season. Also its not just about having a good defence, you have to defend as a team. And at Arsenal that is not done. So a guy like Kos has to work overtime to put out fires. That is why i rate him so much.

Another excellent post <applause>

Just ignore that idiot mate, he knows nothing about football <ok>
 
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