Correct. It depends on which criteria you use, so everyone will have a different opinion.
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Correct. It depends on which criteria you use, so everyone will have a different opinion.
A question for anyone who might know:
Team GB competes at the Olympics.
The UK is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Is team GB therefore just England, Wales & Scotland. And if so, which 'country' does anyone from Northern Ireland compete for?
Team GB competes at the Olympics.
The UK is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Is team GB therefore just England, Wales & Scotland. And if so, which 'country' does anyone from Northern Ireland compete for?
People from Northern Ireland compete for GB - Mary Peters won Heptathlon Gold for GB
For me, hands down, Phelps must go down as the greatest Olympian ever - 26 medals, with 22 of them being gold.
Nobody else has a record that comes close.
Nobody else has a record that comes close.
The times defined Jesse Owens achievements .
Cassius Clay's achievements defined the times .
Owens went stale after the Olympics , Clay ......not so much .
Owens Olympic achievements were awesome , but used for propaganda which made his legendary status .
Cassius Clay's achievements defined the times .
Owens went stale after the Olympics , Clay ......not so much .
Owens Olympic achievements were awesome , but used for propaganda which made his legendary status .
Why? He was just an amateur boxer at the time. Ali is being labelled by some as the greatest Olympian based on his career as a pro boxer.
In terms of Olympians, he doesn't make the top 10 for me.
Go around the world and ask your average person who Jesse Owens is , or Mark Spitz , or Michael Phelps .
Then ask who Muhammad Ali is .
Over a lifetime , Cassius Clay is the most famous Olympian .
This is only my opinion . To me , it's what Ali did with his Olympic status that puts him miles ahead of them all .
"Over a lifetime , Cassius Clay is the most famous Olympian ."
No he's a famous person who happened to be an Olympian early in his career. Phelps & Owens embody the Olympian spirit and are famous because of them. Big difference.
Ali's achievements were remarkable but the Olympics was only a small part of what he did.
No he's a famous person who happened to be an Olympian early in his career. Phelps & Owens embody the Olympian spirit and are famous because of them. Big difference.
Ali's achievements were remarkable but the Olympics was only a small part of what he did.
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Phelps, Bolt, Adlington, Redgrave, M. Johnson, Farah, K Holmes, Hoy, Pinsent - that's just 9 who are more worthy of the accolade as they are multiple Okympic champions.
In fact, if you create a list, I'd argue that Ali would struggle to make a top 40.
And these are your opinions , no better than anyone else's and no worse .
Who said otherwise? People disagreeing makes for healthy debate, don't you think?
Ali was a great sportsman there's no doubt about it, but he earned his greatness when he turned pro imo, he was a legend. But in the Olympics I think those worthy are above. I would say that Daley Thompson should be at the top as well, winning the decathlon in two Olympics is remarkable, let's not forget they do 10 different events for this.
No. 'Basically' I said I disagreed and why. It's a forum, see. Kind of goes with the territory.
If you're going to get spiky every time that happens this is going to be a long, long season.