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Right now, the team that we have to protect for the league is mostly last seasons team - the newbies should all start here, with the exception of Isak, who will be ****ed.

I have no idea who will play tbh but we need to rest Grav, Maca, Szlob whenever we can,
 
Solid Air 2 said:
Think Chiesa will start probably instead of Gakpo .and possibly Gomez replacing Konate.
May even see Salah "rested" <yikes>
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No chance that’s happening.

Gakpo Ekitike Salah start up top.

Chiesa might get 20 minutes. Isak might get 20 minutes. Ngumoha might get 20 mins.
 
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SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING said:
If anyone is completely surprised at how decent palace were or how disjointed we looked at times needs to take off their rose tinted specs I’m afraid.

No excuses. No ‘they got lucky’. No we should have had a penalty, No the referee was poor……we lost and the best team won. There is no other commentary required…this (dropping points) has been coming. Slot needs to look at the balance of the team because it is wrong…..and some big names need to be given time to bed in….it was inevitable that they would.

Now let’s hope that Arsenal drop points - so that they can rejoice in Palace’s winner that took them above Arsenal <laugh>

Let’s never be like them.
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I don't think anyone at all was surprised by Palace. They are the in form team and have been very hard to beat which is why nobody has done it going back to halfway through last season.

If people are using my comment to claim there was no luck involved, they're wrong imo. You can still be the far better team on the day, as Palace were but still only score from goals where luck was involved, as it was. (Already explained the non-corner and the extra extra time). It doesn't mean they weren't the better side on the day, they obviously were but you can't discount the luck involved in their goals just because they were the better side. It's why we like football. The unpredictability of the outcome when a team can win via a deflected goal or a clear penalty not given etc etc. The best team doesn't always win and vice versa.

It was always going to be a difficult game and why Slot chose this one to experiment, I have no idea.
 
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johnsonsbaby said:
I don't think anyone at all was surprised by Palace. They are the in form team and have been very hard to beat which is why nobody has done it going back to halfway through last season.

If people are using my comment to claim there was no luck involved, they're wrong imo. You can still be the far better team on the day, as Palace were but still only score from goals where luck was involved, as it was. (Already explained the non-corner and the extra extra time). It doesn't mean they weren't the better side on the day, they obviously were but you can't discount the luck involved in their goals just because they were the better side. It's why we like football. The unpredictability of the outcome when a team can win via a deflected goal or a clear penalty not given etc etc. The best team doesn't always win and vice versa.

It was always going to be a difficult game and why Slot chose this one to experiment, I have no idea.
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Slot got it badly wrong, agreed.
 
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LuisDiazgamechanger said:
Ekitike should share part of the blame for his stupid yellow cards against Southampton.
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you could but if you assume that Isak took his place, it still doesn’t wash. The team had no balance for a large part of the game - Slot is trying to work out how to fit Wirtz in and we have new full backs who don’t know whether to stick or twist. The quality is there, I have no doubt, but this will take time <ok>
 
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LuisDiazgamechanger said:
I think we should get Marc Guehi in the January transfer window, otherwise we may not stand a chance of getting him when he becomes free agent.
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Well, d'uh. But we're that desperate now that we'll need to pay whatever Palace are asking, and praying Glasner will let him go. I'm still hoping that we can aid the process by whumping Utd next month, getting Amorin sacked, and Glasner will do the greatest act of hypocrisy ever and take the United job. Then again, the inconsistency of both United and Liverpool means that is no certainty.
 
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We have a collection of really good players atm but not yet a cohesive team. It will come. We've had a difficult start to the season in terms of the fixtures as well, let's not forget. To come through that with near perfect results, albeit not one perfect performance, is encouraging.
 
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Ivan Dobsky said:
Well, d'uh. But we're that desperate now that we'll need to pay whatever Palace are asking, and praying Glasner will let him go. I'm still hoping that we can aid the process by whumping Utd next month, getting Amorin sacked, and Glasner will do the greatest act of hypocrisy ever and take the United job. Then again, the inconsistency of both United and Liverpool means that is no certainty.
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We could surprise them and go for Wharton instead.
 
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johnsonsbaby said:
We could surprise them and go for Wharton instead.
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We need a no 6 who can double as a CB, for sure. Gravenberch can't, as we saw with that limp header on Saturday, or at least we couldn't really start him there in an important game. Ditto Endo.
 
Imo once palace scored they would have sat in.

The fact they got one off an error makes no difference. I wont even dispute luck as its an honest mistake by gravenberch and it could go anywhere I guess.

They got in several times to be denied by alisson so imo they've have scored one eventually. I dont think we can say thry wouldn't have scored as the act of getting a gaol.changed their outlook and they locked in on countering us

The second isn't luck either. Its bad defending. Its rank bad defending from kerkez to hack it out there. Its rank organisation to have a midget child anywhere in the box while mo watches on.

Its rank defending from frimpong as well.

As for the time of goal? Tough. Play to the whistle.

We got nothing from the game as we were poor.

Palace nearly lost 2 points because they got too negative. They have to learn that lesson or they'll be back at the bottom of the table quickly.
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
Imo once palace scored they would have sat in.

The fact they got one off an error makes no difference. I wont even dispute luck as its an honest mistake by gravenberch and it could go anywhere I guess.

They got in several times to be denied by alisson so imo they've have scored one eventually. I dont think we can say thry wouldn't have scored as the act of getting a gaol.changed their outlook and they locked in on countering us

The second isn't luck either. Its bad defending. Its rank bad defending from kerkez to hack it out there. Its rank organisation to have a midget child anywhere in the box while mo watches on.

Its rank defending from frimpong as well.

As for the time of goal? Tough. Play to the whistle.

We got nothing from the game as we were poor.

Palace nearly lost 2 points because they got too negative. They have to learn that lesson or they'll be back at the bottom of the table quickly.
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Their first goal from the corner was supposed to be a goal kick. I blamed the linesman for that. However,that does not explain our very poor performance.
 
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moreinjuredthanowen said:
Imo once palace scored they would have sat in.

The fact they got one off an error makes no difference. I wont even dispute luck as its an honest mistake by gravenberch and it could go anywhere I guess.

They got in several times to be denied by alisson so imo they've have scored one eventually. I dont think we can say thry wouldn't have scored as the act of getting a gaol.changed their outlook and they locked in on countering us

The second isn't luck either. Its bad defending. Its rank bad defending from kerkez to hack it out there. Its rank organisation to have a midget child anywhere in the box while mo watches on.

Its rank defending from frimpong as well.

As for the time of goal? Tough. Play to the whistle.

We got nothing from the game as we were poor.

Palace nearly lost 2 points because they got too negative. They have to learn that lesson or they'll be back at the bottom of the table quickly.
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I think people are deliberately misreading the luck comments. Their goals weren't lucky in and of themselves. They were good goals. They came about through lucky circumstances. You simply can't deny that. You say eg the second goal wasn't lucky, it came from bad defending, I agree. It was the timing of the goal, as you go on to mention that was the luck. It happens, we know because we've been the beneficiaries of it too.

My overall take is that the better team on the day won the match. They won with 2 goals that came from lucky circumstances. Both sentences can be true at the same time.
 
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