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Sunderland begin discussions with fans over major Stadium of Light change amid atmosphere concerns

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Sunderland are opening discussions with supporters about moving away fans back into the lower bowl at the Stadium of Light.

The current arrangements, which see travelling supporters housed in the North Stand Upper, will remain in place for the 2025/26 campaign at least as the season card renewal process has already begun.

But the club are exploring their options for future seasons amid concerns that the atmosphere at the Stadium of Light has declined. Chief Business Officer David Bruce opened the discussion with fans at the a recent meeting with the Supporter Collective, with representatives present from the Branch Liaison Council, the Red and White Army and the Senior Supporters' Association. Club officials believe the Stadium of Light is no longer providing the club 'the edge' on the pitch that it once did.....

No decision has been taken on where away fans may move to in the lower bowl, with the club making clear that this would only be done after extensive consultation with fans. Some present raised concerns over the issue of displacing those already in the lower bowl, many of whom will have now held their season card in the same seat for many years. A broader phase of consultation is now set to begin.

What the Sunderland supporter collective meeting minutes said about the issue in full

The minutes read: "A new PA system, lighting and standing have been installed at the Stadium of Light to improve the supporter experience. To continue to improve the experience, DB [David Bruce] would like to open discussions on the position of the away fans and the creation of an ‘atmosphere group’. The position of the away fans has been discussed at length at previous meetings, and MB [Senior Supporters' Association] reiterated that the main issue is the displacement of long-standing season ticket holders. At the Coventry City and Leeds United away games, the atmosphere generated was excellent by the home fans. Sunderland away support is always amazing. CR agreed with MB, that moving away fans had been discussed many times. CR [Branch Liaison Council] asked which areas had been considered for relocation and if 330 away fans with Preston North End or 490 Cardiff City fans would make a significant difference to the atmosphere if they moved to the lower bowl.

"DB confirmed the Club had not taken a decision as to where away supporters would be re-located to, this would be done in consultation with supporters. PK [Chief Operating Officer] noted that in the Premier League the away ticket allocation would be 3,000. JG [Branch Liaison Council] believes an improved atmosphere starts on the pitch, when the team are committed. DR agreed atmosphere can be reactive to actions on the pitch, but the atmosphere has not reflected the performance over the season. It was noted that this season the atmosphere was the worst in recent memory and with the team having a strong league position, the atmosphere is not creating the edge which Sunderland have been known for in the past (DB).

"Limiting migration around the ground as required by the SGSA has prevented likeminded supporters congregating, the age limit in the south stand may also be a factor. It is important to identify and work with fans who want to set up an atmosphere group, suggesting the Club reach out to younger fans who may wish to be involved in an atmosphere group. Fan groups can support the process.

"DR continued that effective fan consultation is the only way forward for any discussion that relates to moving away fans: focus groups, surveys, full consultation. Ultimately, it will be a decision made by the Club, but it can only be a good decision if the fan base has been fully consulted (PK). The Club is keen to work with the collective and the wider fanbase to determine the correct outcome."

the atmosphere is not aided by the away fans being downstairs

they openly state that the atmosphere is reactive and not reflective of our league position

we explode into a rapturous noise in a crescendo like manner when a tackle flies in which suggests to me it doesn’t take much to get feedback from the crowd. However it’s highly naive to not suggest that our style of play has not impacted the atmosphere

large swathes of the game without the ball and you only need to look at the noise when we’re pushing for an equaliser in comparison to see the contrast, it’s night and day.

take the Preston game, very loud during their shenanigans during the pause of play, through to our goal and on to full time. Why? Because we had a been in our bonnet and it was relentless attacking from us.
 
the atmosphere is not aided by the away fans being downstairs

they openly state that the atmosphere is reactive and not reflective of our league position

we explode into a rapturous noise in a crescendo like manner when a tackle flies in which suggests to me it doesn’t take much to get feedback from the crowd. However it’s highly naive to not suggest that our style of play has not impacted the atmosphere

large swathes of the game without the ball and you only need to look at the noise when we’re pushing for an equaliser in comparison to see the contrast, it’s night and day.

take the Preston game, very loud during their shenanigans during the pause of play, through to our goal and on to full time. Why? Because we had a been in our bonnet and it was relentless attacking from us.
I think it will help, moving the away fans into the lower bowl. Agree with the other points though.
 
the atmosphere is not aided by the away fans being downstairs

they openly state that the atmosphere is reactive and not reflective of our league position

we explode into a rapturous noise in a crescendo like manner when a tackle flies in which suggests to me it doesn’t take much to get feedback from the crowd. However it’s highly naive to not suggest that our style of play has not impacted the atmosphere

large swathes of the game without the ball and you only need to look at the noise when we’re pushing for an equaliser in comparison to see the contrast, it’s night and day.

take the Preston game, very loud during their shenanigans during the pause of play, through to our goal and on to full time. Why? Because we had a been in our bonnet and it was relentless attacking from us.
Aye one example for me is Burnley at home this season, the SOL was bouncing for the full game because you could see the players getting at them and giving 100%, I’m not for or against away fans moving but you’re right imo
 
Closer both sets of fans are the better the atmosphere, look at the famous Roker End photo where both fans are goading each other, great atmosphere.
Too sterile now with flags and light shows and stuff, bring the edge back I say
 
the atmosphere is not aided by the away fans being downstairs

they openly state that the atmosphere is reactive and not reflective of our league position

we explode into a rapturous noise in a crescendo like manner when a tackle flies in which suggests to me it doesn’t take much to get feedback from the crowd. However it’s highly naive to not suggest that our style of play has not impacted the atmosphere

large swathes of the game without the ball and you only need to look at the noise when we’re pushing for an equaliser in comparison to see the contrast, it’s night and day.

take the Preston game, very loud during their shenanigans during the pause of play, through to our goal and on to full time. Why? Because we had a been in our bonnet and it was relentless attacking from us.
It’s aided by both

If away fans are singing next to us we go back, it happens at away grounds around the country
 
the atmosphere is not aided by the away fans being downstairs

they openly state that the atmosphere is reactive and not reflective of our league position

we explode into a rapturous noise in a crescendo like manner when a tackle flies in which suggests to me it doesn’t take much to get feedback from the crowd. However it’s highly naive to not suggest that our style of play has not impacted the atmosphere

large swathes of the game without the ball and you only need to look at the noise when we’re pushing for an equaliser in comparison to see the contrast, it’s night and day.

take the Preston game, very loud during their shenanigans during the pause of play, through to our goal and on to full time. Why? Because we had a been in our bonnet and it was relentless attacking from us.

It's a bit of both but the atmosphere in general massively declined when the away fans were moved as far away as possible to the south stand. Football chants are basically designed to bounce off each other, that's not possible at the minute.

It was absolute madness moving them into essentially a huge megaphone especially when there are no home fans allowed within about 50 metres of them up there.
 
For me the only option left is the SE corner and move the family section to SW corner.

The rationale for this is that the BCB is about to be redeveloped and the club would not be looking to put away fans near corporates in the North Stand.

It would liven up the south end of the East stand and families are close enough to enjoy the atmosphere in SW corner whilst not impinging on the corporates.
 
Personally I'd leave the away fans upstairs.

I doubt the south stand would be happy with moving from there, as that's where the cells and security centre is. Where else are they going to go?

Also I think some are just remembering the games where the away fans had a decent following and the atmosphere was better. For the most part, the away section was half empty, just looked **** and didn't affect the atmosphere at all.
 
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Sunderland begin discussions with fans about major Stadium of Light change amid atmosphere concerns

https://www.sunderlandecho.com/spor...underland-stadium-of-light-supporters-5076228

Sunderland are opening discussions with supporters about moving away fans back into the lower bowl at the Stadium of Light.

The current arrangements, which see travelling supporters housed in the North Stand Upper, will remain in place for the 2025/26 campaign at least as the season card renewal process has already begun.

But the club are exploring their options for future seasons amid concerns that the atmosphere at the Stadium of Light has declined. Chief Business Officer David Bruce opened the discussion with fans at the a recent meeting with the Supporter Collective, with representatives present from the Branch Liaison Council, the Red and White Army and the Senior Supporters' Association. Club officials believe the Stadium of Light is no longer providing the club 'the edge' on the pitch that it once did.....

No decision has been taken on where away fans may move to in the lower bowl, with the club making clear that this would only be done after extensive consultation with fans. Some present raised concerns over the issue of displacing those already in the lower bowl, many of whom will have now held their season card in the same seat for many years. A broader phase of consultation is now set to begin.

What the Sunderland supporter collective meeting minutes said about the issue in full

The minutes read: "A new PA system, lighting and standing have been installed at the Stadium of Light to improve the supporter experience. To continue to improve the experience, DB [David Bruce] would like to open discussions on the position of the away fans and the creation of an ‘atmosphere group’. The position of the away fans has been discussed at length at previous meetings, and MB [Senior Supporters' Association] reiterated that the main issue is the displacement of long-standing season ticket holders. At the Coventry City and Leeds United away games, the atmosphere generated was excellent by the home fans. Sunderland away support is always amazing. CR agreed with MB, that moving away fans had been discussed many times. CR [Branch Liaison Council] asked which areas had been considered for relocation and if 330 away fans with Preston North End or 490 Cardiff City fans would make a significant difference to the atmosphere if they moved to the lower bowl.

"DB confirmed the Club had not taken a decision as to where away supporters would be re-located to, this would be done in consultation with supporters. PK [Chief Operating Officer] noted that in the Premier League the away ticket allocation would be 3,000. JG [Branch Liaison Council] believes an improved atmosphere starts on the pitch, when the team are committed. DR agreed atmosphere can be reactive to actions on the pitch, but the atmosphere has not reflected the performance over the season. It was noted that this season the atmosphere was the worst in recent memory and with the team having a strong league position, the atmosphere is not creating the edge which Sunderland have been known for in the past (DB).

"Limiting migration around the ground as required by the SGSA has prevented likeminded supporters congregating, the age limit in the south stand may also be a factor. It is important to identify and work with fans who want to set up an atmosphere group, suggesting the Club reach out to younger fans who may wish to be involved in an atmosphere group. Fan groups can support the process.

"DR continued that effective fan consultation is the only way forward for any discussion that relates to moving away fans: focus groups, surveys, full consultation. Ultimately, it will be a decision made by the Club, but it can only be a good decision if the fan base has been fully consulted (PK). The Club is keen to work with the collective and the wider fanbase to determine the correct outcome."
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As I recall it,when the SoL opened,the North Stand was expected to be the Atmospheric,Bouncing,Singing Home End,but,as the away fans were placed in the SW corner,sections of our support gravitated towards the South Stand,for the proximity atmosphere. The club then decided,in order to try to create an A,B,S Home End in the South Stand,to move the away support into the Gods,a la the Mags. This needs a proper sorting out and quick. There's no doubt that the atmosphere at our home matches has become subdued and the SoL is no longer the fortress it was during the Reidy days and is a million miles away from what Roker Park could become.
 
Would be a good move imo, can’t whinge about the atmosphere being ****e then moan about moving the away fans when that’s one of the biggest contributors. Move them down into the North directly below, nowhere near as many season ticket holders to displace. Away busses are already there. **** the posh pie bars:emoticon-0102-bigsm
 
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Season ticket holders have until 5pm on Friday 11th April to renew their seat for the 2025-26 campaign!

Fans wishing to spread the cost of their new season ticket via a direct debit payment plan must also sign up for the new campaign by 5pm on Friday!

Following Friday’s deadline, seats are subject to being released and loyalty pricing will no longer be available.

Supporters are also reminded that the option to spread the season ticket cost over six direct debit payments will no longer be available after Friday’s deadline.

With a place in the Sky Bet Championship Play-Offs confirmed, 2024-25 has been a memorable campaign on Wearside and Régis Le Bris’ Black Cats still have everything to play for.

Don’t miss a second of the action next season and renew for 2025-26 now!
How to renew

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Additional information

If you have already renewed your season ticket, please discard this email.

We thank you for your continued support and can’t wait to see you back at the Stadium of Light for the 2025-26 season!

Help

For more information on 2025-26 season tickets and renewals, visit Ask SAFC.

From frequently asked questions to guides and walkthroughs, we have everything covered to ensure that your 2025-26 renewal is a seamless experience.

For any outstanding questions, you can also contact our ticketing team directly by submitting a request or by calling 0371 911 1973.
 
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Season ticket holders have until 5pm on Friday 11 April to renew their seat for the 2025-26 campaign!

Fans wishing to spread the cost of their new season ticket via a direct debit payment plan must also sign up for the new campaign by 5pm on Friday!

Following Friday’s deadline, seats are subject to being released and loyalty pricing will no longer be available.

Supporters are also reminded that the option to spread the season ticket cost over six direct debit payments will no longer be available after Friday’s deadline.

With a place in the Sky Bet Championship Play-Offs confirmed, 2024-25 has been a memorable campaign on Wearside and Régis Le Bris’ Black Cats still have everything to play for.

Don’t miss a second of the action next season and renew for 2025-26 now!
How to renew

Online

The Stadium of Light Ticket Office

Additional information

If you have already renewed your season ticket, please discard this email.

We thank you for your continued support and can’t wait to see you back at the Stadium of Light for the 2025-26 season!

Help

For more information on 2025-26 season tickets and renewals, visit Ask SAFC.

From frequently asked questions to guides and walkthroughs, we have everything covered to ensure your 2025-26 renewal is a seamless experience.

For any outstanding questions, you can also contact our ticketing team directly by submitting a request or by calling 0371 911 1973.
I got an email last week (I think) to say it was automatically done, if you were in the DD scheme does it automatically put you onto the new one with 6 payments?
 
I got an email last week (I think) to say it was automatically done, if you were in the DD scheme does it automatically put you onto the new one with 6 payments?
yes but check you season subscriptions you should see

Your season will be auto renewed via Direct Debit
 
Season ticket holders have until 5pm on Friday 11 April to renew their seat for the 2025-26 campaign!

Fans wishing to spread the cost of their new season ticket via a direct debit payment plan must also sign up for the new campaign by 5pm on Friday!

Following Friday’s deadline, seats are subject to being released and loyalty pricing will no longer be available.

Supporters are also reminded that the option to spread the season ticket cost over six direct debit payments will no longer be available after Friday’s deadline.

With a place in the Sky Bet Championship Play-Offs confirmed, 2024-25 has been a memorable campaign on Wearside and Régis Le Bris’ Black Cats still have everything to play for.

Don’t miss a second of the action next season and renew for 2025-26 now!
How to renew

Online

The Stadium of Light Ticket Office

Additional information

If you have already renewed your season ticket, please discard this email.

We thank you for your continued support and can’t wait to see you back at the Stadium of Light for the 2025-26 season!

Help

For more information on 2025-26 season tickets and renewals, visit Ask SAFC.

From frequently asked questions to guides and walkthroughs, we have everything covered to ensure your 2025-26 renewal is a seamless experience.

For any outstanding questions, you can also contact our ticketing team directly by submitting a request or by calling 0371 911 1973.

Glad you reminded me, I got nout through because it wasn’t on direct debit I think. Gone up to £460 in the ****ey Roker end anarl :emoticon-0112-wonde