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Billy Cattermole said:
A sheltered life? I've lead owt but!!!
Dregs of society you say?
Like the knackers who sing pro IRA songs at Paradise Park?
Is that what you mean?
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They are all equally vile. Anybody who celebrates sectarian violence is a vile dinosaur who's attitudes are out of keeping with a civilised or intelligent society. As for what went on in George Square though, that was organised and orchestrated by unionist thugs who used violence against anyone who got in their way, including elderly women. I think all decent people will condemn that, no matter what side of the political or religious divide they fall.
 
Less Hope Than Neville said:
They are all equally vile. Anybody who celebrates sectarian violence is a vile dinosaur who's attitudes are out of keeping with a civilised or intelligent society. As for what went on in George Square though, that was organised and orchestrated by unionist thugs who used violence against anyone who got in their way, including elderly women. I think all decent people will condemn that, no matter what side of the political or religious divide they fall.
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He's not noticed my signature <laugh>

He's hoping i'd defend the indefensible.
 
DevAdvocate said:
That I won't engage you in pathetic arguments? Indeed, I do possess common sense and as you are unable to read, it would be a wholly futile exercise in trying to alter a closed mind.

Maybe you should read what I said instead of reading what you think I said.
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I have read your posts and believe me I understand your position, you were initially against independence, then because of the better together campaign you favoured the yes vote.

As a matter of fact, before Thursdays vote I had sympathy with the yes campaign and was hoping they would win. However the majority voted to remain as part of the union so in a democracy, that is the what will happen.

I just don't understand why, in a democratic country, some yes campaigners can not seem to accept that decision and continue to bleat about how they have been sold down the line by no voters, it is almost as if they look on the no voters as second class citizens whose opinion is not as valid as there own
 
Montysoptician said:
I have read your posts and believe me I understand your position, you were initially against independence, then because of the better together campaign you favoured the yes vote.

As a matter of fact, before Thursdays vote I had sympathy with the yes campaign and was hoping they would win. However the majority voted to remain as part of the union so in a democracy, that is the what will happen.

I just don't understand why, in a democratic country, some yes campaigners can not seem to accept that decision and continue to bleat about how they have been sold down the line by no voters, it is almost as if they look on the no voters as second class citizens whose opinion is not as valid as there own
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Here's what I said:

DevAdvocate said:
Indeed, partly. I didn't dig out my kilt and bagpipes and head for the hills to fight for freedom from the Redcoats, that sadly is the typical view of a Yes voter. I considered everything I heard and read and made up MY OWN mind, Salmond may have had an influence on my change of heart, i'm not a fan of him or the SNP, but this vote was never about him and them, it was simply down to a need for real change.
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And your response:

Montysoptician said:
There you go again, a real need for change for who, the 1.5m+ minority who voted yes or the 2m+ majority who voted no?
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In case it was unclear, I was talking about ME. How I came to MY decision. I never said I was unhappy with the decision nor have I criticised anyone for voting NO.

As I said, try reading what I said and not what you think I said. <ok>
 
DevAdvocate said:
Here's what I said:



And your response:




In case it was unclear, I was talking about ME. How I came to MY decision. I never said I was unhappy with the decision nor have I criticised anyone for voting NO.

As I said, try reading what I said and not what you think I said. <ok>
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You conveniently omitted to highlight the part of your statement where you mentioned the 'need for real change'. <ok>

I asked you a simple question, I really couldn't have put it simpler, but I will repeat it. A real need for change for who, the 1.5m+ minority or the 2m+ majority?

Your selective response highlights your lack of understanding on a couple of levels, the most irritating is a complete disregard for the principles of democracy. <doh>
 
Montysoptician said:
You conveniently omitted to highlight the part of your statement where you mentioned the 'need for real change'.

I asked you a simple question, I really couldn't have put it simpler, but I will repeat it. A real need for change for who, the 1.5m+ minority or the 2m+ majority?

Your selective response highlights your lack of understanding on a couple of levels, the most irritating is a complete disregard for the principles of democracy.
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<doh>

I wanted real change. It's really quite simple. Me and the other people who voted Yes. If you can't or won't understand that then I really have nothing else to say to you.
 
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