Nottingham........

[Jiffie]

The incredible thing is with all of this **** going on with this pandemic. "Yer actual labour party" is still eating itself, 7 or was it 8 shadow front bench resignations last week, a 'Starmer out' campaign mounted by labour activists and tomorrows ECHR anti semitism report to be publicised, now that should be entertaining.

 

[remembergou]

I'm pretty comfortable saying that any of the other governments between 1990 and 2010, Tory and Labour, would have done far better than this lot during the Covid crisis, yes.

You cannot really say that as circumstances in that period were very different. Population attitudes were far removed from those of todays, which is trending toward a lemming stampede! and is governed by wanton disregard to our fellow neighbours. I watched a news clip last evening of the antics of a few thousand younger people totally disregarding requests to be sensible and social distance. How can a government expect to be able to bring back a sense of normality when the simplest requests are in denial!

Those people will go home, drunk and disorientated, spread, possibly any infection they may have picked up throughout their dwelling and put other members of their household in danger. How can you say the government is responsible for that?

one for Bristol city, when I was a baby I used to regularly have sherry in my goodnight bottle of mums own milk till I was 1. On a Sunday until I went to Uni, I, we always had a glass of wine with dinner. Started from a very young age, maybe 3 or 4 years old, it helped with digestion was the belief.

 

[RedorDead]

My daughter in-law is a nurse at BRI, March, April and May was the quietest she's ever been with beds empty, that would normally be occupied for people with life threatening illnesses..

Taken this snippet from this news update, your daughter in law may be in for a busy winter.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54756950

The papers, understood to be part of a presentation by the government's pandemic modelling group SPI-M shown to Boris Johnson, feature several different projections of the likely course of the disease.

All models predict that hospitalisations are likely to peak in mid-December, with deaths rising until at least late December before falling from early January.

And a separate document circulating in government - based on NHS England modelling from 28 October - warns that the NHS would be unable to accept any more patients by Christmas, even if the Nightingale hospitals are used and non-urgent procedures cancelled.

The document warns that south-west England and the Midlands will be the first to run out of capacity, potentially within a fortnight.

 

[oneforthebristolcity]

Taken this snippet from this news update, your daughter in law may be in for a busy winter.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54756950

The papers, understood to be part of a presentation by the government's pandemic modelling group SPI-M shown to Boris Johnson, feature several different projections of the likely course of the disease.

All models predict that hospitalisations are likely to peak in mid-December, with deaths rising until at least late December before falling from early January.

And a separate document circulating in government - based on NHS England modelling from 28 October - warns that the NHS would be unable to accept any more patients by Christmas, even if the Nightingale hospitals are used and non-urgent procedures cancelled.

The document warns that south-west England and the Midlands will be the first to run out of capacity, potentially within a fortnight.

The implications of other patients with life threatening illnesses is the worry IMO, especially the patients being treated for Cancer etc...I'm still not convinced that a full country lockdown is the right way to go...

 

[RedorDead]

The implications of other patients with life threatening illnesses is the worry IMO, especially the patients being treated for Cancer etc...I'm still not convinced that a full country lockdown is the right way to go...

But carry on the way it’s going restricts the care to other illnesses. It’s the rise of hospital administration due to Covid that puts a strain on NHS.
Regardless of thinking something is a hoax, they still need hospital beds.
Or do you want any Covid related hospital admissions to stay at home?

 

[BCFCRob]

Month lockdown. If they’d listened to SAGE they could have done it a month ago and it only needed to be 2 weeks. Idiots. Got there in the end.

 

[Jiffie]

Month lockdown. If they’d listened to SAGE they could have done it a month ago and it only needed to be 2 weeks. Idiots. Got there in the end.

Do you honestly believe that this latest lockdown will be respected by the same people who disrespected the last lockdown and bigger numbers of morons who disrespected the easing of the last lockdown?

We should run a book on who will be the first to stage a mass demo.

Early runners and riders.

Piers Corbyn's mob of nutters.

Extinction rebellion.

Muslims who seek respect for their prophet but offer little or no respect to LGBT or women and are at least 4 times more vulnerable to covid.

The labour left in support of Jeremy.

 

[BCFCRob]

Haha of course. I make a post about lockdown and you turn it into a rant on Labour and Corbyn No relation whatsoever. Obsessed

 

[RedorDead]

Month lockdown. If they’d listened to SAGE they could have done it a month ago and it only needed to be 2 weeks. Idiots. Got there in the end.

We will be ok in Wales, we come out of it a week Monday

 

[oneforthebristolcity]

We will be ok in Wales, we come out of it a week Monday

I can see you lot doing the hokey cokey ..Bit strange.....few cases, lockdown, case's increasing come out? But you are under Labour, so there's a reason!!

 

[oneforthebristolcity]

But carry on the way it’s going restricts the care to other illnesses. It’s the rise of hospital administration due to Covid that puts a strain on NHS.
Regardless of thinking something is a hoax, they still need hospital beds.
Or do you want any Covid related hospital admissions to stay at home?

More people will die through other illnesses than "of" Covid IMO.....
We should keep people that have underlying illnesses & the elderly protected as best we can, would be a much better option IMO.

 

[Jiffie]

Haha of course. I make a post about lockdown and you turn it into a rant on Labour and Corbyn No relation whatsoever. Obsessed

Wow, that has got to be the most snowflakeness response in history, a throwaway line about Corbyn constitutes a rant in your snowflake universe.

 

[Jiffie]

Yesterday I had to go to Weymouth to pick something up, before the impending lockdown.

The traffic queues in both directions beggared belief.

The place was rammed and it was pissing down with rain. I made several observations on my trip there but heres the first.

The place was heaving with groups of teenagers, just hanging around or crowding into shops, I think it's obvious that this is the group most likely to be passing covid on to others. I cannot believe that parents have so little thought for others by allowing their kids to act like this, a case of out of sight out of mind.

ROB, that's a rant.

 

[oneforthebristolcity]

Yesterday I had to go to Weymouth to pick something up, before the impending lockdown.

The traffic queues in both directions beggared belief.

The place was rammed and it was pissing down with rain. I made several observations on my trip there but heres the first.

The place was heaving with groups of teenagers, just hanging around or crowding into shops, I think it's obvious that this is the group most likely to be passing covid on to others. I cannot believe that parents have so little thought for others by allowing their kids to act like this, a case of out of sight out of mind.

ROB, that's a rant.

Also, the funny thing is, it will only be a partial lockdown with schools & uni’s to carry on even though that secondary schools are one of the worst groups to spread the virus..
what happens after lockdown? Lockdown only delays the spread. The numbers will rise again.. will COVID recognise Christmas? That will be interesting..

 

[RedorDead]

Because I’m in construction and only had an office because it suited me as I can work from home. My working life has not been too bad during 2020. However I can understand how this affects others. I wished we all stayed as one nation and all went into lockdown as one.

 

[RedorDead]

More people will die through other illnesses than "of" Covid IMO.....
We should keep people that have underlying illnesses & the elderly protected as best we can, would be a much better option IMO.

Nobody is disputing that fact though. Regardless of whether they die or not they all need bed space. This pandemic is creating more people taking those spaces.
The underlining illnesses are that as in not detected so you can’t protect those who don’t know they’ve an underlining illness.
I think you’re mixing the severity of the illness without the need for bed space. Without hospital intervention then the severity of Covid rises.

 

[oneforthebristolcity]

Nobody is disputing that fact though. Regardless of whether they die or not they all need bed space. This pandemic is creating more people taking those spaces.
The underlining illnesses are that as in not detected so you can’t protect those who don’t know they’ve an underlining illness.
I think you’re mixing the severity of the illness without the need for bed space. Without hospital intervention then the severity of Covid rises.

Postponing treatment for others with life threatening illnesses doesn’t make sense where areas of the country with Covid Is low..
Again shielding vulnerable people As much as possible would have been a better way to go..
Panic has set in imo but let’s see how it pans out.. lockdown will bring cases down but will rise again after we come out.. then what?

 

[RedorDead]

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[RedorDead]

Postponing treatment for others with life threatening illnesses doesn’t make sense where areas of the country with Covid Is low..
Again shielding vulnerable people As much as possible would have been a better way to go..
Panic has set in imo but let’s see how it pans out.. lockdown will bring cases down but will rise again after we come out.. then what?

So do the covid patients travel or the others travel?

 

[oneforthebristolcity]

So do the covid patients travel or the others travel?

It's not the case of who travels it's the case of having perspective on all peoples lives, this is not a full lockdown by any stretch of imagination....Children are still allowed to go to and fro from school, (even though they are high risk of spreading Covid from household to household) people are still allowed to go to work, you are still allowed to get takeaways, construction sites can carry on...The big players of Amazon are loving it, travelling across the Country delivering and starving even more small businesses from operating....all this for a few extra cases that are there because more testing we've had, which was surely predictable.
What about the suicide attempts which have nearly doubled each day, according to NHS paramedics since last year, the 1000's of people living on the breadline who's jobs will be lost because of all this, the amount of poverty this will bring for years to come..
IMO, Boris has tried to avoid panic in this Country with the attempt to keep businesses operating but obviously with pressure from all sides has caved in to it.
Self testing and results within 15 minutes should be interesting.......to see if you carry the virus on that particular day...but what about the next day, when your kids bring it home from school or you pick it up in a supermarket while your stocking your trolleys with loo rolls!!!