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Given that donald appointed ross I am not expecting any miracles re the successor.
Ross was manifestly unfit for the safc role.
However I am sure ross made a great presentation with graphs, tables etc etc. It's the way he is, and donald and charlie would love all that palaver.
From st mirren to sunderland though is like moving from a newspaper delivery round to managing director of the Times.
He was very plucky but the job was too big for his sort.

Not sure if I agree with all that
 
Personally I think the pressure got to him and he became more and more negative with tactics and team selection.

The trouble with that was as we got more negative the pressure increased and it became a vicious spiral down
 
Personally I think the pressure got to him and he became more and more negative with tactics and team selection.

The trouble with that was as we got more negative the pressure increased and it became a vicious spiral down

Seems a fair summary although I think that at least part of the issue was that he became branded as negative and lots of people couldn't see beyond that even when we weren't being particularly negative
 
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No offence mate but you can only hold an opinion, not dictate how people feel.

For me losing two Wembley finals through caution, letting a promotion place slip and failing to win promotion was a disaster.

We only went into the top two after Maja left and you're just guessing that he would've stayed/played/scored.

The only facts are that Ross failed to do what he claimed he would and take the club up ...

.... he was no nearer this season.

No, the only pertinent fact is that his target was to get in the playoff places and that's what he did. He hit the target set by his boss hence not a disaster. That's a fact no matter how you felt about his football.
 
No, the only pertinent fact is that his target was to get in the playoff places and that's what he did. He hit the target set by his boss hence not a disaster. That's a fact no matter how you felt about his football.
I googled jack ross quotes and it gave me the Chronicle quoting him for each month last season.
Never once read in the first 6 months him saying play offs. Winning promotion and winning the league was mentioned several times.
Nevertheless he failed abysmally. The choke against charlton was a disgrace.
That was his fault. Players were underprepared physically and mentally and his need not to lose outweighing playing good attacking football
He has gone now thankfully
 
I googled jack ross quotes and it gave me the Chronicle quoting him for each month last season.
Never once read in the first 6 months him saying play offs. Winning promotion and winning the league was mentioned several times.
Nevertheless he failed abysmally. The choke against charlton was a disgrace.
That was his fault. Players were underprepared physically and mentally and his need not to lose outweighing playing good attacking football
He has gone now thankfully

Probably because he didn't set his target Donald did. Of course Ross talked about winning promotion automatically why wouldn't he. Before the season started the majority on here weren't expecting any miracles due to the years of dire results we've had to endure.

Like you say he's gone now so it doesn't really matter now but I'm not having it going down in history as a disaster when it wasn't. Relegation would have been a disaster.
 
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Probably because he didn't set his target Donald did. Of course Ross talked about winning promotion automatically why wouldn't he. Before the season started the majority on here weren't expecting any miracles due to the years of dire results we've had to endure.

Like you say he's gone now so it doesn't really matter now but I'm not having it going down in history as a disaster when it wasn't. Relegation would have been a disaster.
Sorry but Bowyer made us look second rate last season and especially so at wembley.
He had a fraction of the resources, a club in turmoil at the top, and he had less experience than ross .
It was a disaster. We should have walked that league
 
If what I'm told is true its all down to acceptance now.

It would be interesting to know if our potential new investors are aware of the Leicester story and might be able to encourage Steve Walsh to reunite his working relationship with Pearson as head of our recruitment.

I'm convinced that Walsh was far more important to that team than either Pearson or Ranieri and Pearson's record (Leicester aside) leaves a lot to be desired.
 
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Sorry but Bowyer made us look second rate last season and especially so at wembley.
He had a fraction of the resources, a club in turmoil at the top, and he had less experience than ross .
It was a disaster. We should have walked that league

Yeah I get that's your opinion, got it the first time you said it never mind the 50th.
 
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It would be interesting to know if our potential new investors are aware of the Leicester story and might be able to encourage Steve Walsh to reunite his working relationship with Pearson as head of our recruitment.

I'm convinced that Walsh was far more important to that team than either Pearson or Ranieri and Pearson's record (Leicester aside) leaves a lot to be desired.
Have to make sure he brings the psychologist he had with him at Leicester cause I think some of our players are very weak minded
 
Have to make sure he brings the psychologist he had with him at Leicester cause I think some of our players are very weak minded

It would take more than a psychologist. The Wizard of Oz would have a job on his hands giving some of our players what they need.

The biggest criticism I have of the current regime is recruitment. I'd be hoping new owners and by some miracle and longshot, the recruitment of Walsh would lead to a whole new blueprint.
 
Only in response to the endless boring criticism of Ross and I let most of it fly.

Just opinions mate, we're all entitled to have them and post them.

How boring they are probably depends on whether you agree or not I'd expect.

When I worked on a posh bar it dawned on me what the difference was between a hunk and a creep.

If a bloke offered to buy a girl a drink the distinction would depend on whether she fancied him or not ...
 
Just opinions mate, we're all entitled to have them and post them.

How boring they are probably depends on whether you agree or not I'd expect.

When I worked on a posh bar it dawned on me what the difference was between a hunk and a creep.

If a bloke offered to buy a girl a drink the distinction would depend on whether she fancied him or not ...

I'd say any opinion is boring when it's said over and over, I know I bore myself repeatedly sticking up for Ross because you and Fulwell don't seem to be able to state your opinion on Ross and move on.
 
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