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cba to go trawling through this thread. so can someone give me a brief outline of what acun was banging on about.. cheers
 
It was the goal Allsop conceded against Watford when he was lobbed from the half way line that kicked this off. Acun simply asked Rosenior why he isnt giving Pandur a chance. Also the effect on the players confidence was an issue with Acun, who had persueded these players to come in the first place then had to answer questions why they were sat in the stands on a matchday.
Seems the rumours that some players went behind Roseniors back and complained to Tan were true?

Maybe Rosenior replied with "Because it's December and we don't sign him till next month"
 
My take.

Acun did the rounds with the media after the sacking, gave respectful reasons for the sacking (did not share the same vision etc).

in reality, the sacking wasnt headline news. Hull City were far down the pecking order in the headlines on that day and only a small minority of “pundits” chose to comment on it.

But Acun admitted he does read fans forums and those on facebook and twitter were massively critical of the decision for the first couple of days. I suspect the criticism that he took most to heart was accusation that the one dream was bullshit.

Acun flew in especially to address these issues with the fans. There was no invite to the media. Had we been introducing a new Manager the media would have been there.

This was him explaining to the fans the reason Liam had to go in more honest terms than could be done where media were present.

The decision to extend the invite to fans online seemed a fairly late one but from a risk mitigation point of view, there was very little chance of journalists not directly connected with Hull City joining the stream.

It wouldnt surprise me if most of the current players didnt tune in either.

The reaction on here seems to be less about disagreeing what he said (the reasons for sacking Liam) amd more about how the rest of the footballing world including future players might react.

I would be very surprised if the recording ends up on youtube therefore most future players will be none the wiser.
 
Because if you had a 50/50 decision between coming to City or another club where an owner didn't publicly criticise your performance, which club would you choose?
At least players who do come in now will be under no illusion of what's expected of them
 
“Pandur not good enough” according to Liam.

Not good enough with his feet I suspect would be the more accurate answer.

Having said that I suspect Rosie would have had the same judgement of Darlow as not been as good with his feet. But for most Darlow would be first choice in front of Allsop.
 
My take.

Acun did the rounds with the media after the sacking, gave respectful reasons for the sacking (did not share the same vision etc).

in reality, the sacking wasnt headline news. Hull City were far down the pecking order in the headlines on that day and only a small minority of “pundits” chose to comment on it.

But Acun admitted he does read fans forums and those on facebook and twitter were massively critical of the decision for the first couple of days. I suspect the criticism that he took most to heart was accusation that the one dream was bullshit.

Acun flew in especially to address these issues with the fans. There was no invite to the media. Had we been introducing a new Manager the media would have been there.

This was him explaining to the fans the reason Liam had to go in more honest terms than could be done where media were present.

The decision to extend the invite to fans online seemed a fairly late one but from a risk mitigation point of view, there was very little chance of journalists not directly connected with Hull City joining the stream.

It wouldnt surprise me if most of the current players didnt tune in either.

The reaction on here seems to be less about disagreeing what he said (the reasons for sacking Liam) amd more about how the rest of the footballing world including future players might react.

I would be very surprised if the recording ends up on youtube therefore most future players will be none the wiser.

Surprisingly good post from you.
 
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I assume he means he has a burner twitter account so he can follow relevant accounts but not fill his main account's feed with City stuff, but would be funny if he had an account on here too.

Wonder if he's listened to any City podcasts. :)
 
I think a fair criticism at Acun is that he himself said a manager cannot take part in recruitment due to time not allowing him to scout players.

Yet he himself admitted he doesn’t see the players every day in training. I get it’s fair to criticise Allsop’s performances (I still don’t think in a public forum mind) but he’s not seeing how players like Pandur, Ohio and Sinik are doing in training but are expected to play on reputation alone. I agree Pandur and Ohio should’ve got spells because of the players ahead of them not playing well but it’s not sitting right with me overall
 
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It's what I've been saying from the start. Hire a Director of Football who knows what they're doing, and task them with running the club in the capacity Acun is now. If Acun gets displeased with the Director of Football, hire and fire that person, but Acun shouldn't be directly picking players to sign, firing the manager for boring him, etc. That should be entrusted to the Director of Football. It gives one layer of separation to allow for emotion to be stripped out of decisions. Acun can still give the DoF a brief though, which means he still has an impact and say on the direction of the team.

I’m getting panem et circenses vibes from Acun at the moment. Whilst he does a lot of good regarding affordable tickets, free travel last year, improving the general mood, backing the club as much as he can with transfers (even if recruitment has been dodgy), it’s the other populist stuff like the free holidays, the Botanic appearances etc. that just feel a bit gimmicky and unserious.

If he wants to be the eccentric, personable owner who has pints with fans and stuff, that’s fine, but he needs to delegate the footballing decisions to Tan or a Director or Football. Right now, he’s trying to do all of the populist stuff as well as micromanaging the football side of the business, which is just a recipe for disaster. He needs to pick one or the other. If he wants to be hands-on with footballing decisions, he should be more serious and level-headed about it. If he wants to do all the other stuff, he just needs to be a figurehead and nothing more.