New Manager

[Jezz511]

Just read a bbc article about Bamford who apparently has missed 9 good chances this season, but his xG is 4. Can someone explain that?

xG is a way of measuring the probability of scoring from a shot. No matter how easy the chance is there's never going to be a 100% definite you'll score.

So if they classify a good chance as thinking you'll score 1 in every 3 of given the opportunity then it'll be an xg of 0.33

As another poster put it, a penalty is often seen as one of the best chances you'll get or scoring in a match - but not every single one is scored which is why it's measured at 0.76 or whatever... So if you took 100 penalties you'd be expected to score 76 of them on average.

 

[Drew]

They were just an example. QPR have rebuilt their squad on player sales and a smart recruitment policy, Huddersfield made the play-off final last season on a shoestring budget, Rotherham who everyone was gushing over the other day have one of the smallest budgets too. Point being that budget can be used a lot more smartly than just 'splash the cash at it and we'll get success'.

Yes, my point above wasn’t to suggest that splashing the cash for the sake of it was the only way to get success, but the Allams seemed to think saving money was the be all and end all, whereas as you say there are smarter ways to do it. I’d much rather save money on player wages for example, and hire a really good scouting team. Appreciate that’s probably harder when you tell them they don’t have much of a budget to work with!

I do think, unless you get a squad that clicks brilliantly, you have to spend something to get the squad depth needed for a proper crack at promotion, but that’s all for nought unless you have a strategy. It’s something we have clearly lacked (present owners included) over the last five years.

 

[SydneyTiger14]

Yes, my point above wasn’t to suggest that splashing the cash for the sake of it was the only way to get success, but the Allams seemed to think saving money was the be all and end all, whereas as you say there are smarter ways to do it. I’d much rather save money on player wages for example, and hire a really good scouting team. Appreciate that’s probably harder when you tell them they don’t have much of a budget to work with!

I do think, unless you get a squad that clicks brilliantly, you have to spend something to get the squad depth needed for a proper crack at promotion, but that’s all for nought unless you have a strategy. It’s something we have clearly lacked (present owners included) over the last five years.

I don't think you're wrong, but I do think it's quite possible to set a budget within the means of the club, set a strict wage structure, and with the right recruiting set up and Academy, do quite well and over-achieve relative to wage budget. A lot of teams up and down the EFL prove this is possible, but it does require the club to be well run, which of course requires some level of investment - but that should be within the means of the club.

 

[WestStandTiger]

Rosenior into 4/9. Anything other than money placed behind it?

 

[Drew]

I don't think you're wrong, but I do think it's quite possible to set a budget within the means of the club, set a strict wage structure, and with the right recruiting set up and Academy, do quite well and over-achieve relative to wage budget. A lot of teams up and down the EFL prove this is possible, but it does require the club to be well run, which of course requires some level of investment - but that should be within the means of the club.

I think we’re saying the same thing?

 

[SydneyTiger14]

I think we’re saying the same thing?

Sure, I guess I'm just saying that the spending has to be sensible.

 

[Blaknamberblood]

Rosenior into 4/9. Anything other than money placed behind it?

I'd be flabbergasted if they thought Rosie was the answer

 

[amberman8]

Perhaps they just use their squad spaces a lot more smartly rather than having ten wingers/number 10s.

They were just an example. QPR have rebuilt their squad on player sales and a smart recruitment policy, Huddersfield made the play-off final last season on a shoestring budget, Rotherham who everyone was gushing over the other day have one of the smallest budgets too. Point being that budget can be used a lot more smartly than just 'splash the cash at it and we'll get success'.

I agree..but we will have to wait till the end of the season to see if the small budget clubs succeed...but you are fundamentally right..smart signings are better than big signings often

 

[Mckechnie Orange]

I agree..but we will have to wait till the end of the season to see if the small budget clubs succeed...but you are fundamentally right..smart signings are better than big signings often

Guess it depends on the base squad you start with. If you've just survived your first season with good L1 players but have aspirations to challenge in the coming years then isn't it likely you'll need more of an overhaul to achieve that than perhaps a club already established?

Whether you do that slowly over a number of windows I guess is a strategic decision. Potential pros and cons to both.

It is much much harder for clubs with very small budgets to sustain success over a number of years however as it either involves keeping your personnel (the more success the more difficult that is) or continually defying the odds in the transfer market - which even the better resourced clubs are ultimately trying to do also.

 

[Porthmeor Tiger]

I'd be flabbergasted if they thought Rosie was the answer

Slightly harsh on Rosie. If he is as good a manager as he was a player he would be fine for us. He is thought to be a good tactician and coach. If he has the motivational skills then he could be a great appointment. We have seen that Dawson has the ability to motivate a team and get it to perform. Young English coaches rarely get a chance so I would be happy to see Rosie and Daws have a crack at it.

 

[Cityzen]

Slightly harsh on Rosie. If he is as good a manager as he was a player he would be fine for us. He is thought to be a good tactician and coach. If he has the motivational skills then he could be a great appointment. We have seen that Dawson has the ability to motivate a team and get it to perform. Young English coaches rarely get a chance so I would be happy to see Rosie and Daws have a crack at it.

How many great players make great managers? Very, very few.

 

[HullCiteh]

Just keep dawson, if anything spend some money and get good assistants that can help him with analyzing and scouting opponents etc

 

[Blaknamberblood]

Slightly harsh on Rosie. If he is as good a manager as he was a player he would be fine for us. He is thought to be a good tactician and coach. If he has the motivational skills then he could be a great appointment. We have seen that Dawson has the ability to motivate a team and get it to perform. Young English coaches rarely get a chance so I would be happy to see Rosie and Daws have a crack at it.

It's the 'If' factor, we don't need to gamble if there are experienced coaches out there wanting to throw their hats in the ring. Rosie and Daws will always be fondly thought of, and yes Daws has improved us, but I'd be happier with an experienced head at the helm for the likes of Rosie and Daws to draw from, before going full.pelt and having to learn on the job.

 

[BlackAndAmberGambler]

Andy Dawson should be left in charge for a the foreseeable future as he clearly has the backing of the squad. No manager available could have got a better performance out of the current squad than he did on Saturday. Acun should back him and let him assemble his own team of assistants at least until January and if all goes well then make it permanent. Should the worst happen and it goes wrong then replace him with some "big" name. I personally don't think anyone could do any better than Daws is doing now. Once the injuries clear up we could really go for it. It's a massive opportunity for Andy so let him give it his best. Winning and climbing the table is great under any manager whether an unknown or a Galactico.

 

[Blaknamberblood]

Andy Dawson should be left in charge for a the foreseeable future as he clearly has the backing of the squad. No manager available could have got a better performance out of the current squad than he did on Saturday. Acun should back him and let him assemble his own team of assistants at least until January and if all goes well then make it permanent. Should the worst happen and it goes wrong then replace him with some "big" name. I personally don't think anyone could any better than Daws is doing now. Once the injuries clear up we could really go for it. It's a massive opportunity for Andy so let him give it his best. Winning and climbing the table is great under any manager whether an unknown or a Galactico.

In the absence of anyone coming forward I suspect he'll certainly be in charge til the world Cup starts. Far too quiet with regards potential new managers.

 

[tigermaul]

In the absence of anyone coming forward I suspect he'll certainly be in charge til the world Cup starts. Far too quiet with regards potential new managers.

I hope that's the case. But Liam Rosenior's odds have dropped markedly on Skybet to 9-4 on, whereas Dawson's have lengthened out to 6-1.

 

[Kempton]

Andy Dawson should be left in charge for a the foreseeable future as he clearly has the backing of the squad. No manager available could have got a better performance out of the current squad than he did on Saturday. Acun should back him and let him assemble his own team of assistants at least until January and if all goes well then make it permanent. Should the worst happen and it goes wrong then replace him with some "big" name. I personally don't think anyone could do any better than Daws is doing now. Once the injuries clear up we could really go for it. It's a massive opportunity for Andy so let him give it his best. Winning and climbing the table is great under any manager whether an unknown or a Galactico.

Agree with every word

 

[TIGERSCAVE]

I'd be flabbergasted if they thought Rosie was the answer

in the same way they thought Shota was the answer....!!?

 

[TIGERSCAVE]

Whilst I dont think Daws is the answer.... imagine brining Rosie in right now and the reaction of the team and squad. Whilst he is HCAFC, so is Daws and I personally think it would upset the apple cart. Now, if a 'named' manager came in, different story...

 

[willyfog]

When we win I think we should keep Dawson.

When we lose I think we should get a new manager as soon as possible.

Im not sure what we should do when we draw.