New Head Coach

[Dunder Mifflin]

Something has to give mind, the silence bar the stupid statement last week is deafening

the club are getting absolute pelters on every social media channel going internal and external.

Speakman out has been trending, it’s a mess

 

[Yes but no but]

Do you find, not having a head coach in now acceptable?

Totally agree with KS can’t close a book. Spoke to Bob on private message about something recently.

 

[Prehab26]

Totally agree with KS can’t close a book. Spoke to Bob on private message about something recently.

I won't go into more detail but you'll be right.

Me and the Bob have found a message off years ago so we may message. See what happens.

But it is right currently. It's just not good enough. I am genuinely blown away that we have allowed ourselves to go into the euros without a head coach.

Not sure people understand the significance of this.

 

[J Flash]

But hes also brought good experienced players to compliment that - he just went away from that too much last summer

Honestly we should be going the youth route, we should be trying to sign young exciting players as thats how we can be successful. The biggest thing for that to work is you need the right balance, you need some experienced players alongside them, you need players that are for now and not just for the future

Thanks to Speakman (and others like TM) i had 1 of the most enjoyable seasons ever watching my club when we finished 6th. We were a joy to watch, ill always be thankful for Speakman n co for that season but he has also had a shocking 12 months so i get folk calling for him to leave

What happened to the Pritchard/Batth type signings? In the early KLD days it was the primarily youth signings, but also those more experienced pro's who at one point had higher ceilings but had lost their way a bit at their current clubs. We'd give them a chance at a lower level to try and reignite their careers, we've lost sight of that profile.

 

[L18SFC]

Personally I'm going to wait and see who we bring in as head coach and how the transfer window goes before making any further judgement on Speakman. He's done well so far barring a transfer window or two.

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[SourPatch2]

My biggest gripe with Speakman is that he isn't even implementing the model he talks about so much. You have to set a playing style as the DoF and then bring in a head coach to implement that style. Doing that means you don't need to give the coach involvement in transfers as them players will fit the system that is already set. However we wait until we appoint the head coach and let them dictate the playing style but still don't give them a say in the transfer market which leads to players not fitting. Would also make the head coach search much easier if we already narrowed it down to coaches who fit the predetermined style.

He wants to run the European DoF/Head coach model but isn't implementing it at all.

 

[Scout73]

What happened to the Pritchard/Batth type signings? In the early KLD days it was the primarily youth signings, but also those more experienced pro's who at one point had higher ceilings but had lost their way a bit at their current clubs. We'd give them a chance at a lower level to try and reignite their careers, we've lost sight of that profile.

Its not just those signings but if you think about signings like Ballard, clarke, roberts they all had a good number of games under their belts in english football so they could hit the ground running

We went away from that last summer, some of those signings may turn out to be class for us but every window is an opportunity to get better immediately and we didnt do that last summer

Hopwfully theyve learned from it but the longer we go without a manager the more worried i get

 

[Pure River Slut]

I won't go into more detail but you'll be right.

Me and the Bob have found a message off years ago so we may message. See what happens.

But it is right currently. It's just not good enough. I am genuinely blown away that we have allowed ourselves to go into the euros without a head coach.

Not sure people understand the significance of this.

Players leaving ?

 

[J Flash]

Its not just those signings but if you think about signings like Ballard, clarke, roberts they all had a good number of games under their belts in english football so they could hit the ground running

We went away from that last summer, some of those signings may turn out to be class for us but every window is an opportunity to get better immediately and we didnt do that last summer

Hopwfully theyve learned from it but the longer we go without a manager the more worried i get

That was the key difference from Summer 22 to Summer 23 for me. People will call Ballard and Clarke 'kids' which they are, but they were also proven quality at Championship level (Ballard with Milwall and Clarke with Leeds). Last summer was way way too lopsided.

 

[Scout73]

That was the key difference from Summer 22 to Summer 23 for me. People will call Ballard and Clarke 'kids' which they are, but they were also proven quality at Championship level (Ballard with Milwall and Clarke with Leeds). Last summer was way way too lopsided.

They were the signings id be saying to my dad we should have made yrs a go - sign young players from the big teams who could hit the ground running

We have had 2 good summer windows out of 3 - so thats the hope im clinging too for this summer

 

[Yes but no but]

I won't go into more detail but you'll be right.

Me and the Bob have found a message off years ago so we may message. See what happens.

But it is right currently. It's just not good enough. I am genuinely blown away that we have allowed ourselves to go into the euros without a head coach.

Not sure people understand the significance of this.

Totally agree mate. Mine is player related and bob had heard about it to be fair to him.

 

[Nacho]

We’ve been weak in depth in key positions every window to me tbh. Crossing fingers Stewart of all people doesn’t get injured, pretending wingers are forwards, box to box are holding midfielders, midfielders are false 9’s. Too much gambling or ego. At least if you sign young lads play them where they belong. Within that yes there has been quality but at this point we don’t have a Clarke or Ballard emerging.

Definitely room for improvement. I just don't think he's utterly incompetent or the actual devil.

As I said I want to see who we end up with as coach and how the squad looks when the window closes. As far as I'm concerned he's earned that much.

 

[Chucky Puddin]

How anyone can defend Speakman is beyond me, if he was in this position at 99% of other clubs in the country he would've been peddled for sheer incompetence, it's beyond a joke now.

 

[J Flash]

They were the signings id be saying to my dad we should have made yrs a go - sign young players from the big teams who could hit the ground running

We have had 2 good summer windows out of 3 - so thats the hope im clinging too for this summer

There's hope for sure. We have the quantity for a squad, its about the quality now. The premier league market hitting the crazy heights it has now, leaves quality younger players available for clubs like us at reasonable prices. You add a quality CDM and ST to our side, get a few lads consistently fit, then all of a sudden we are where we were 12 months ago.

One of the frustrating things about this head coach search for me, regardless of what anyone thinks of the running of the club, or Speakman or whatever, is that this is some job for a head coach. Imagine getting it right here? Taking us back to the prem, 40k+ at the SOL every fortnight. Yes its red and white tinted glasses and a few beers in me, but bloody hell, its a cracking job for the right person.

 

[Scout73]

How anyone can defend Speakman is beyond me, if he was in this position at 99% of other clubs in the country he would've been peddled for sheer incompetence, it's beyond a joke now.

Folk havent defended him for this tho, some are saying they are waiting to see who is appointed before they make judgement - thats fair! Some are saying hes done a lot of good for the club - thats also fair

 

[Scout73]

There's hope for sure. We have the quantity for a squad, its about the quality now. The premier league market hitting the crazy heights it has now, leaves quality younger players available for clubs like us at reasonable prices. You add a quality CDM and ST to our side, get a few lads consistently fit, then all of a sudden we are where we were 12 months ago.

One of the frustrating things about this head coach search for me, regardless of what anyone thinks of the running of the club, or Speakman or whatever, is that this is some job for a head coach. Imagine getting it right here? Taking us back to the prem, 40k+ at the SOL every fortnight. Yes its red and white tinted glasses and a few beers in me, but bloody hell, its a cracking job for the right person.

It should be, but we have a shockjng reputation as a club of not giving managers time so thatll put folk off for sure

If someone comes in and gets it right here tho - wow what a feeling thatll be for them

 

[Chucky Puddin]

Folk havent defended him for this tho, some are saying they are waiting to see who is appointed before they make judgement - thats fair! Some are saying hes done a lot of good for the club - thats also fair

The Head coach situation alone, starting from sacking Mowbray with having no plan and giving us the spiel about Beale then putting his mate Dodds in charge is enough to undo all the good work for me, no other club in the land would have wrote off half a season.

 

[Rade Prica]

They were the signings id be saying to my dad we should have made yrs a go - sign young players from the big teams who could hit the ground running

We have had 2 good summer windows out of 3 - so thats the hope im clinging too for this summer

Thing that’s knacked me off is that they took their foot off the boil. Complacency. They failed to recognise that the likes of Batth, gooch, pritch at al. allowed the younger lads to flourish. Binned them off and signed more youngens. That’s when I was concerned. We ended last season on such a high and they’ve done everything possible since to completely undo it all.

 

[Whittylad]

For me - no its not acceptable at all but i also think some folk are also remembering the good that speakman has also done since joining us. Hes had a shocking year, we all agree on that (well most do) but he also had 2.5 good years and really got us back on track

Now i get he rubs folk up the wrong way, but hes also done a hell a lot of good since joining us - which some people are now forgetting

This managerial search has been a joke imo, last week was my limit - i gave them a few extra days after the statement but syill nothing, its poor!!

They clearly put all their eggs in the Will Still basket - when he changed his mind theyve not had a plan B. They were willing to give Still everything he wanted, they showed flexibility with him - not sure if they are showing the same with other candidates.

Now I've been told that changes are happening, i honestly dont know what those changes are - i know some have hinted at KS going (i think he probably needs to go now as i think a lot of fans have lost respect for him), some have hinted at a takeover (or selling of shares)

Anyway the longer this goes the more worried i get, this is such an important time to be planning the season ahead

I couldnt agree more with your comments. The problem is people forget the good he's done and the longer this drags on the worse it will get. The owner must have some idea of what is going on and can't be left out when blame is being dished out. For the record I do like the owner and some of speakmans signings have been good but as you say he's had a poor 12 months or so. Needs sorting quickly or we are risking a poor start to this season.

 

[Scout73]

The Head coach situation alone, starting from sacking Mowbray with having no plan and giving us the spiel about Beale then putting his mate Dodds in charge is enough to undo all the good work for me, no other club in the land would have wrote off half a season.

And most arent defending any of that (tbf a lot on here were wanting TM gone, the issue was the replacing of him)

What some are saying is hes also done a lot of good with us, its easy to forget that as its in the past now and at the minute we dont seem to be in a great place (no team can be in a good place without a head coach)