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alcoauth said:
I think videos like that are more the sort of thing that reinforces a stereotype.

So If you read racial crime statistics and then saw a very specific crime video, it could feed your prejudice. It's a similar effect to that.

English coaches are amongst the best now, people come from abroad to learn here, our clubs and league system have very good infrastructure, we're holding ourselves back and it's just weird and unfortunate.
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The whole country is falling apart mate...football is no exception.
 
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Smug in Boots said:
That's fair enough mate but it boils down to nothing more than opinions.

I have to ask myself, if English coaches are so good and so adaptable ...

... why don't unemployed ones, like ex-PL Heckingbottom, go to work in any of the many European countries.
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I can answer that one. English is the lingua-franca, we don't speak foreign languages and this is a barrier for entry to many clubs abroad, either from their end or the coaches end.
 
Disco down under said:
Can't say I've seen any banging on the door for a big job recently.
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It's like I said earlier. In order to be eligible for the very top clubs, you need to have had success at a comparative level, British coaches are struggling to even get intermediate roles in English football. The best British coaches in recent years usually get promotion, stay up and make a fist at mid table, after that sometimes big clubs might have a sniff at them.
 
Southern A said:
I always saw it as a sign nothing was imminent, despite his words saying he hoped to appoint imminently.

There was no right word for him to use. Any word he used would have been torn apart.

What was clear (to me at least), is if an appointment was imminent, no statement was needed at all.

What his statement has essentially done is bought him and the club an extra week with a lot of fans. Although it is starting to look like that might not be enough :D
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everyone has jumped on imminent when you can see he didn’t mean that at all.

Not the greatest statement to put out to a fanbase with impatient knackers.
 
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Didn't want Rosenior for ages, and now I've finally come round to the idea of him, so it would be typical Sunderland for us to **** the bed and fail to get yet another head coach across the line.

Haway Kyril, get the lad signed man will ya.
 
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Regarding the Burnley link to Rosenior, the only person who had linked him to us (before Nixon jumped on the bandwagon) was Fishpaste. No journos had reported anything concrete and I think it's just been assumed that he would be on our shortlist. I would expect him to be someone of interest to us but there's never been anything other than Fishpaste claiming KLD had spoken to him that suggests he's close to joining us (I don't consider Nixon as credible)
 
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Culinary said:
Thanks mate, I hate being so negative and I'm trying my best to be reasoned and balanced about it (I argued until I was blue in the face in favour of Mowbray and Neil in the face of a lot of opposition) but I just can't convince myself on Rosenior.

Main positives are man management and players liking and rating him so much and the possession heavy game being a better way to showcase our players so that we can progress as a club through big player sales. There are things there that reassure me so I'm not totally dejected but equally I can't get really enthusiastic about it either.
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I'm happy to give Rosenior a chance as most people will be
Mainly in the hope he is young has learned from his first year and can develop his style of playing.

However given a choice I would go for Maric every time even though he's unproven as a head coach.
Having read his ideas on the game they are much more akin to the Liverpool / Leverkusen style of play
Quick transition moving the ball through the lines quickly everything geared around getting forward and scoring.

I understand the slow posession based build up but its hard to get right
It allows teams to get into shape which makes breaking them down difficult.
relies on quick intelligent players making space and runs and able to spot and execute the pass.
From our experience more often than not just end up with the ball going sideways and back to the centre halfs repeat.

We have an opportunity to do something different thats why I would accept Rosenior but be a bit disappointed
Absolutely understand why he splits the fan base.
 
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alcoauth said:
I can answer that one. English is the lingua-franca, we don't speak foreign languages and this is a barrier for entry to many clubs abroad, either from their end or the coaches end.
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That's no excuse if people are ambitious, it just shows up the poor attitude many coaches have imo. I was fluent in French after six months without a single lesson, because I wanted to live happily in the south of France ... and I'm a nugget <laugh>

The likes of Allardyce may well have the talent but they're happy with the comfy merry-go-round of low pressure jobs and hefty pay-offs imo.
 
I really don’t know what to make of the whole situation as I said the other day,I’m not the most patient of people and I’ve tried me best but it’s running on just a bit now as me mother used to say- its gone from the sublime to the ridiculous but all we can do is KTF and see what comes of it
 
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[QUOTE="Prehab26, post: 17608186, member: 1049748"]It's genuinely to a point now where we need the new man and his team in. Not next week/week after, now. If someone is all in and wants to really make a go of it, get it done. We have really taken too long and over complicated the process due to structure we have self imposed. Flex a little and get going into the new season.[/QUOTE]


Two months overdue.imo
 
jpdsafc said:
Regarding the Burnley link to Rosenior, the only person who had linked him to us (before Nixon jumped on the bandwagon) was Fishpaste. No journos had reported anything concrete and I think it's just been assumed that he would be on our shortlist. I would expect him to be someone of interest to us but there's never been anything other than Fishpaste claiming KLD had spoken to him that suggests he's close to joining us (I don't consider Nixon as credible)
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Prehab has said we have spoke to rosenior tbf and many outlets seem to be running what nixon is saying
 
Yes we
Dunder Mifflin said:
We finished 16th in the championship last season, we are never going to get the perfect manager are we?

Jansen wasn’t the perfect manager but he seemed a good fit for us, Still wasn’t perfect, Mowbray wasn’t perfect but he was loved until the day he left, in fact there were meltdowns due to Mowbray being picked as manager.

I think some of our fans need to realise we aren’t going to get the perfect manager and every manager we get will have flaws, the same goes for the vast majority of clubs in the world.

If LR joins, get behind him and see what we he can do.
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Yes we finished in that position but we underperformed (XG had us at 7th) and let’s be honest with the crowds we attract, infrastructure and potential we have, we should still be an attractive proposition.
 
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