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alcoauth said:
This is also going on right now in relation to the Adam Rutherford coalition I referred to. If you're familiar with Beachy Head Lady, a skeleton found in East Sussex from the Roman Era, she has a head shape that indicates non-NW European ancestry, so had been stylised as an indicator of African presence in England during that time, except newer autosomal DNA technology shows she is likely from Croatia or the surrounding area. Croatians, if you've ever met one are not subsaharan Africans. This is just one example, I could list more to be honest.
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DNA testing suggested she was possibly from Cyprus. I'm not entirely convinced that this is political manipulation. Although it's possible to infer some degree of the origin of a skeleton from certain cranio-facial measurements, these things occur on an overlapping scale and so are notoriously inaccurate. You would usually only use those as a working theory until you'd done DNA or stable isotope analysis. It would be noteworthy but not necessarily completely earth shattering to find a Roman of African ancestry in Britain. Without reading the osteo's report, I'd imagine it was postulated as a possibility and this has been picked up on and made more of than is necessarily the case.
 
Kipper said:
**** me, we are Sunderland AFC in the second tier of English football.

2nd should be regarded as a just about acceptable failure

It’s sad to see our fans standards have been eroded so far. Random selection of facts:
• One of Englands historic clubs
• 40k fans
• 6 times champions of England
• 10 seasons in the PL 2007-2017
• Didn’t finish lower than 23rd in the pyramid 1995-2018
• Currently on our longest ever spell outside of the top flight

Have some standards ffs. We aren’t a plucky club where challenging for a play off spot is a good season, we aren’t a Millwall, Plymouth or Bristol City or even a Boro, Norwich or WBA, we aren’t a Brentford, Bournemouth or a Brighton.
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It's just reality innit, Luton, Burnley and Sheffield United are coming down with about £180m more than us from things like worldwide tv money and parachute payments. That wasn't the case when we got relegated in the 90s or 00s, the landscape is different.
 
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Kipper said:
The billionaire owner should think about why he’s bought a random football club if not to bankroll it

We are not an experiment for a billionaire child to set himself a daft challenge
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Are you advocating him repeating what Ellis Short did? Running the club into the ground, risking it's existence for 10 years in the Premier League. Most of which was a miserable time for supporters, watching us suffering defeat after defeat and escaping relegation by the skin of our teeth.

There's plenty of clubs steeped in history, like Preston, Blackpool and Notts County. Where are they now? It's time we stopped dwelling on what the club once were. Football has moved on and we've been left amongst the also rans, like 86 of the other 92 clubs in the Football League.

I was born in 1962, and since then Sunderland have spent their time going up and down between the top 2 flights, with 5 years of League one and 1 meaningful trophy to our name. Big support doesn't equate to us being a big club. If you want us to buy our way to the top, pray for an arab or an oil baron or go and support Saudi United up the road.
 
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Wardley Makem said:
Tell you what mind, the names we've been linked with over the last year or so, Farioli, Fonseca etc have gone on to do some very good things in the game. We're definitely fishing in the right pond, just need to change our bait
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As the old saying goes. We aren't fishing at the moment we are just teaching worms to swim.
 
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The Norton Cat said:
DNA testing suggested she was possibly from Cyprus. I'm not entirely convinced that this is political manipulation. Although it's possible to infer some degree of the origin of a skeleton from certain cranio-facial measurements, these things occur on an overlapping scale and so are notoriously inaccurate. You would usually only use those as a working theory until you'd done DNA or stable isotope analysis. It would be noteworthy but not necessarily completely earth shattering to find a Roman of African ancestry in Britain.
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The point it is was being used as propaganda to normalise subsaharan Africans being present in Britain in antiquity, this was the point of Cheddar man also, Cheddar man has ZERO African DNA, yet by making him blacker than he was it plants the seed in peoples mind that black (read, subsaharan African) people have always been in Britain. It's a constant onslaught, again there are multiple examples of this.

Here's a BBC article that is still up from 2014 and hasn't been corrected, this is tax-funded propaganda:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-25962183

If you want to know why the country is going to sh!t, it's because of things like this, these people deserve the worst.
 
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Bob the Mackem said:
He will lose credence doing that.
That's to Wilks point
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Yep. Very fickle sport and the head coaches role is finite. When you face doesn't fit, you're gone from the game. Still needs to find the right club whilst his stock is high. That being said, don't **** clubs over.
 
SAFC Wilks said:
Still will turn both us and Lens down imo. He’ll wait for another opportunity.

Hope the deadline for him is soon and we stick to it. Can’t keep waiting.
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I'm hopeful the club have already made a decision either way, and that we've either wrapped everything up with Still and are holding off the annoucement for whatever reason, or that we've already moved on and that just hasn't been picked up by the press yet. Would be very surprised if KLD is still sat twiddling his thumbs waiting for a call of Still with a decision.
 
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alcoauth said:
The point it is was being used as propaganda to normalise subsaharan Africans being present in Britain in antiquity, this was the point of Cheddar man also, Cheddar man has ZERO African DNA, yet by making him blacker than he was it plants the seed in peoples mind that black (read, subsaharan African) people have always been in Britain. It's a constant onslaught, again there are multiple examples of this.

Here's a BBC article that is still up from 2014 and hasn't been corrected, this is tax-funded propaganda:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-25962183

If you want to know why the country is going to sh!t, it's because of things like this, these people deserve the worst.
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There wouldn't be anything abnormal about subsaharan Africans being present in Britain in the Roman period. As I say, significantly noteworthy, but not abnormal.

It looks to me like that BBC piece has been written by someone with a poor understanding of the subject, prior to the further testing, who hasn't understood the nuances that would be present within the work carried out on the skeleton.

As far as I recall about Cheddar Man, there was no implication that he was of African origin. Just that the Mesolithic inhabitants of the British Isles (or that part of it) were darker skinned than people are now.
 
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The Norton Cat said:
There wouldn't be anything abnormal about subsaharan Africans being present in Britain in the Roman period. As I say, significantly noteworthy, but not abnormal.

It looks to me like that BBC piece has been written by someone with a poor understanding of the subject, prior to the further testing, who hasn't understood the nuances that would be present within the work carried out on the skeleton.

As far as I recall about Cheddar Man, there was no implication that he was of African origin. Just that the Mesolithic inhabitants of the British Isles (or that part of it) were darker skinned than people are now.
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Is this Cheddar man in the betting for our head coach? :emoticon-0105-wink:
 
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