Pretty sure Neil wanted to take 1 or both of them to stoke with him so they obviously impressed him
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Well he’s not reassured me this year if I’m honest. I think they’ve misjudged readiness. Burstow being a stand out, even Aouchiche I’d say who I think they picked to play and he looked lost until the last month.
He wanted Dodds because Stoke sacked the likes of Rory delap from the previous regime when they brought in Neil. Likely just an easy target because he knows him and we’re soft as sh*te.
Readiness is the key to this upcoming summer. I'm not too fussed by age or previous experience, they just need to come in and be ready from the start.
I believe so, happy to be corrected though. All the players seem to enjoy their methods and coaching style and a fair few have improved under them.
It may be a case of them being pushed to the front too soon and they would be better served behind the scenes, but I do believe we have to allow a new coach to make that decision.
If he doesn't want them on the bench then drop them back to behind the scenes development.
Trouble is Dodds especially has been pushed front and centre and I'm not 100% sure he really wanted to be
He's credited with the development of players like Nathan Redmond and Demarai Gray, as well as the Bellinghams. Dan Neil and Luke O'Nien have talked about how good he is.
I don't know if anyone's listened to them, but he's been on a couple of coaching podcasts over the last couple of years.
Yeah i think we probably need to invest in one or two surer bets. If they’re good they’ll wanted. We need goals in the side.
As far as I know in his previous roles working with young lads and helping develop them he's very highly thought of. Seems to be an intelligent and knowledgeable bloke who's handy to have around.
If the new head coach has a **** hot team to bring with him I'm not sure how Dodds fits in beyond going back to his old job. That's not very likely especially if they're currently out of work.
This is the sort of opinion I dont understand mate. Can you explain what are these modern outlooks foreign players have? It is lost on me. Similarly why you think Mowbray was a plodder? He is a coach who has likely forgotten more than Still, for example, has learned, yet all of a sudden these inexperienced lads are flavour of the month because they arent dour? I am up for being convinced, but as it stands I see a lad, in Still, who will struggle in this league and in Rigg we havr the most modern of players when compared to Adil or Ba for example. We are light years ahead in terms of player development in this country than france for example, in my opinion anyway. The challenge is for young lads from europe to step up when they come here, and we see it time and again.
They definitely made changes in both games after the Bolton match. It was at the back where they kept with the same players.
V Bolton
Hoffman
Winchester
Baath
Doyle
Cirkin
Dajaku
Neil
Evans
Gooch
Embleton
Stewart
V Doncaster
Hoffman
Winchester
Baath
Doyle
Cirkin
Gooch
Neil
Evans
Embleton
Pritchard
Stewart
V Cheltenham
Patterson
Hume
Baath
Doyle
Cirkin
Dajaku
Evans
Mate
Clarke
Pritchard
Stewart
P
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Fair bit we lost to lifting opposition. Now with them in the hot seat again, we are literally relation form under last 6 and 10 game form guides. They are not suitable for such promising positions. Behind the scenes , player development. Link person to the front bench. Not making the calls.
Reality has shown they are not up to it. Desperate for the summer and need Speakman to allow the new coach to bring in a team. Not be buzzing with an assistant only.
Aye and lost them both - face it they aren't any good at managing the team - their record is beyond a joke.
I feel myself agreeing on most points but can see where Chunks is coming from the trouble with the steady hand approach is we have tried it for a lot of years (anybody remember Phil Parkinson) and at times it can work and at times it can fail.
I think I would like to see a coach come in with some innovative ideas but a capability to be a leader and a person the team and the rest of the club respects regardless of age or experience. I hope we get somebody with a good personality and dare I say a little bit of an arrogant confident aura about them. Somebody who can convince the club to go on a journey with him to help the club mature as he moves us toward our goals.
That is the kind of manager I want not somebody who will revert back to a steady playing style trooped out season after season if that is the profile we may as well get Steve Bruce back as he can tick most of those boxes but is not really the profile I hope we go for.
I remember before we got Alex Neil in Michael Bridges was in the press pleading with the club to go for a little known at the time Aussie manager who is now managing Spurs and I remember at the time a load of our fans kicking up a bit of a stink about it, bet those same fans wish we had took the chance then. What we need is somebody that can inspire and lead, be tactically good and instill confidence whoever that may be.
They did a half hour story on Dodds at the World Cup, highly rated by his peers and players I would say
To be honest the club have already stated that there is scope for the new coach to build their team, one report from a newspaper article about a manager who may or may not be in the running for the job claims he will only be allowed 1 extra position is to be honest pretty irrelevant and is probably no more than a journalist's conjecture base on nothing more than snippets from fans forums and it is probably designed to spark debate and more clicks and shares than it is to be of any real value or substance.
I thought that under the DoF system the style of play was set and coaches were appointed who were comfortable coaching that system but who could sprinkle that little bit of fairy dust that would provide the improvement in individual and team performance.
If that Head coach didn't improve performances then a new one could slot in with minimal disruption at least ensuring some continuity.
I understood that it was also policy to improve and produce our own coaches within this playing style, again with a view to continuity.
Obviously nothing lasts for ever and playing style along with tactics evolve, but over time.
Yet here we are with with people screaming to effectively appoint a manager with his own team to dictate playing style and tactics which will lead to a period of initial confusion as players have to adapt to these new demands, with no continuity of playing style from Academy to first team and probably with the need to sign new players to fit this new playing style. In other words a demand for short term fixes, surely that's what contributed to the problems we had leading to the double relegation.
I think it's time for cool heads and patience. The new head coach should, and probably will, be allowed to bring in someone he trusts to help get his message across. For the first time in years there is some semblance of a plan to improve the players and the club, can we give it a chance.
I know this won't please the attention seeking wum's and no doubt there'll be a few comments flying my way, carry on, sticks and stones and all that. After all it's only a message board and we have no influence on the decisions taken by the club, despite how important some posters feel they are,
If that Head coach didn't improve performances then a new one could slot in with minimal disruption at least ensuring some continuity.
I understood that it was also policy to improve and produce our own coaches within this playing style, again with a view to continuity.
Obviously nothing lasts for ever and playing style along with tactics evolve, but over time.
Yet here we are with with people screaming to effectively appoint a manager with his own team to dictate playing style and tactics which will lead to a period of initial confusion as players have to adapt to these new demands, with no continuity of playing style from Academy to first team and probably with the need to sign new players to fit this new playing style. In other words a demand for short term fixes, surely that's what contributed to the problems we had leading to the double relegation.
I think it's time for cool heads and patience. The new head coach should, and probably will, be allowed to bring in someone he trusts to help get his message across. For the first time in years there is some semblance of a plan to improve the players and the club, can we give it a chance.
I know this won't please the attention seeking wum's and no doubt there'll be a few comments flying my way, carry on, sticks and stones and all that. After all it's only a message board and we have no influence on the decisions taken by the club, despite how important some posters feel they are,
I think if you look at Klopp and Pep and even Arteta you can see the innovative way they set up with a high press and quick tempo phases of play and how they have the whole club and not just the whole team buying into what they are trying to achieve, they are not all exactly the same but it is interesting to watch how they manipulate formations and tactics abd instill confidence. then look at teams like Brighton and Brentford who try and accommodate these principles but with maybe slightly less quality and still tend to out perform teams with more resources. Of English managers probably the bet examples would be Potter and (he who shall not be named as he manages up the road) another fella.
However if you look at the England manager (Southgate) he is definitely more defensive minded and not confident of his own squads ability to attack and kill teams of so he openly admits that he sets up defensively as historically more major tournaments have been won by teams with a defensive mindset. Problem with that is football has evolved and he is being left behind IMO. The Euro final against Italy for me really proved that. Had Klopp or Pep been in charge of that team there is no way we score 1 and then try and sit on that lead.
I think my point is we as a club need to innovate and not follow tried and tested formula's, we need to grow and we need new ideas even if it is a risk I think it is a risk worth taking.