Off Topic NETFLIX and Box Set series Thread.

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Quill said:
They didn't spin a wheel and it ended up on Arya by chance. They had a set of characters to choose from, those who could believably do the deed. And they chose. They knew they'd never be able to satisfy everone because everyone wanted something different. I think the NK's end was brilliant. Arya is a character who can pull that off. It subverts the audience's expectation about either Jon or Dany being destined to kill the NK. Subverting expectations and delivering a believeable alternative has been the show's mojo since the start. The episode highlighted beautifully how useless all of the brave, skilled, honorable characters were faced with an overwhelming mass of enemies. They were never going to defeat 100,000 undead soldiers head on on the battlefield. The NK knew about Jon and Dany and her dragons. He planned accordingly and rendered his two biggest threats useless. He wasn't goaded into a fantasy cliché one-on-one duel with Jon like most fantasy stories would have delivered. But he didn't know about Arya, who might be the all around most capable fighter on the show, thanks to her agility, ruthlessness, willingness to fight dirty and her ingenuity. She's not above poisoning her enemies like the Freys, goading them into a vulnerable positon like Meryn Trent. Luring them into a trap like the waif. She's the most versatile killer on the show. She didn't just jump the NK. He's so over powered, there was no other way of killing him. Jon is a good fighter, but he's human. The NK speared a dragon in flight with one throw.

People say they want to see a realistic story – and then they want the NK to be defeated in single combat by Jon or destroyed by dragonfire. That was never going to happen. The more I think about Arya doing it, the more I like the decision.

I will say that a lot of characters made it out alive. Realistically there should have been more casualties. But we're near the end. Whenever the show has killed off major characters, others have taken on a more major role or new ones appeared. There's no time for that. The cast that's left consists of characters that we love and care about. With the finale in sight, wouldn't it have felt frustrating to have them die off en masse just before the finale? Who would be left to root for apart from the main protagonists and antagonist? I understand that it's not exactly realistic, but **** it. I'll gladly take another four hours of screentime with Tormund, Jaime, Brienne, Pod and the Hound.
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most of them should be dead. Arya was a good choice but the whole 8 series of build up to an anticlimactic demise before even making it past winterfell was just disappointing. I guess it lived up to its expectation to be completely unexpected. Nobody expected every single major character to make it out alive and for the night king and his wight army to go down so easily. It would have been a much more intense finish to the story to have everyone battling it out for the throne whilst the night king is bearing down on them all. That whole plot line has just fizzled out like a damp squib. So much was put into building all that up, the mystique, hardly seeing anything of them for ages, the urgency once they appeared just to be swatted away like an annoying fly. I think they will make a return.
 
Quill said:
Ghost survived. He's in the preview for the next episode. I do think he should've appeared later in the episode though since he did survive.

Beric was brought back to save Arya from those wights, it makes sense if the divine purpose was to save the person who kills the NK. He was never going to be the one who killed the NK, it seemed inevitable his purpose was to sacrifice himself.

Jon did **** all because the NK made sure Dany and Jon were out of the way. Bran was watching the battle using his ravens. He knows what is going to happen anyways, so whay would he do anything?

NK went down exactly like a White Walker does, it makes sense.

Fighting Cersei was never ever a side issue. It was always the main plot. Game of Thrones has always been a human issue, it makes sense for it to end that way. In the books it is the same, the white walkers haven't even appeared yet in those.
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and beric hardly saved Arya from those two walkers. He just got absolutely manhandled by two of them whilst the hound held off an entire corridor of them. Beric’s final role was more befitting of Sam, who should have been chopped into more pieces than a KFC chicken. The whole thing in the crypt was a shambles too. Everyone knew what was going to happen, it appeared none of the characters had even considered it. Caught totally unprepared, some pointless scenes and saved by the bell. I just don’t feel it loved anywhere up to game of thrones extremely brutal and well thought out standards.
 
Plum said:
Isn't that what they call deus ex machina...?
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Possibly, but from the first season Arya has been taught and trained as an assassin or fighter. Syrio, her Hound road trip and the faceless men. Not least if all her first meeting with the red woman who told her eyes you will close forever. Including blue eyes. Lot of foreshadowing, in hindsight.
 
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Mr Bob said:
most of them should be dead. Arya was a good choice but the whole 8 series of build up to an anticlimactic demise before even making it past winterfell was just disappointing. I guess it lived up to its expectation to be completely unexpected. Nobody expected every single major character to make it out alive and for the night king and his wight army to go down so easily. It would have been a much more intense finish to the story to have everyone battling it out for the throne whilst the night king is bearing down on them all. That whole plot line has just fizzled out like a damp squib. So much was put into building all that up, the mystique, hardly seeing anything of them for ages, the urgency once they appeared just to be swatted away like an annoying fly. I think they will make a return.
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Return? I have considered that, as a balance. For life there must be death? The demise of the night king so soon, hopefully sets the show up for the plotting and scheming that I really prefer. Season 7 was not as enjoyable for me as the previous ones, perhaps shown by my best recollection is they set a world record for setting stunt men on fire. I hope this season has more than the record for a battle scene.
 
Mr Bob said:
and beric hardly saved Arya from those two walkers. He just got absolutely manhandled by two of them whilst the hound held off an entire corridor of them. Beric’s final role was more befitting of Sam, who should have been chopped into more pieces than a KFC chicken. The whole thing in the crypt was a shambles too. Everyone knew what was going to happen, it appeared none of the characters had even considered it. Caught totally unprepared, some pointless scenes and saved by the bell. I just don’t feel it loved anywhere up to game of thrones extremely brutal and well thought out standards.
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Sam is the one character who won't die, as he's the GRRM equivalent in this world, who will end up writing a book about the whole thing.

He should've been down in the crypts though.

I don't think it was that they never considered the crypts, but that it was still technically the safest place during the battle that the innocents could be placed - and when you look back, it kinda was, even after the dead rose.
 
Mr Bob said:
most of them should be dead. Arya was a good choice but the whole 8 series of build up to an anticlimactic demise before even making it past winterfell was just disappointing. I guess it lived up to its expectation to be completely unexpected. Nobody expected every single major character to make it out alive and for the night king and his wight army to go down so easily. It would have been a much more intense finish to the story to have everyone battling it out for the throne whilst the night king is bearing down on them all. That whole plot line has just fizzled out like a damp squib. So much was put into building all that up, the mystique, hardly seeing anything of them for ages, the urgency once they appeared just to be swatted away like an annoying fly. I think they will make a return.
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They absolutely won't return. Though the prequel series they're making is set during the first Long Night, so you should be able to get a decent bit of White Walker action there.
 
Quill said:
Sam is the one character who won't die, as he's the GRRM equivalent in this world, who will end up writing a book about the whole thing.

He should've been down in the crypts though.

I don't think it was that they never considered the crypts, but that it was still technically the safest place during the battle that the innocents could be placed - and when you look back, it kinda was, even after the dead rose.
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Quill said:
Sam is the one character who won't die, as he's the GRRM equivalent in this world, who will end up writing a book about the whole thing.

He should've been down in the crypts though.

I don't think it was that they never considered the crypts, but that it was still technically the safest place during the battle that the innocents could be placed - and when you look back, it kinda was, even after the dead rose.
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There was buzz that Mr is not your bitch Martin was to play an aged Sam in the last scene. His, too busy writing to make a cameo, statement had me pissing myself. Yes, the crypts, one place Bran hadn't been since he got marked. And therefore the ancient spells supposedly woven into Winterfell would hold out. I o rethought that theory !!
 
Asterix said:
Possibly, but from the first season Arya has been taught and trained as an assassin or fighter. Syrio, her Hound road trip and the faceless men. Not least if all her first meeting with the red woman who told her eyes you will close forever. Including blue eyes. Lot of foreshadowing, in hindsight.
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Right, that's me told! Not sure what I've been told but there you go!
 
Quill said:
I think it was a signal issue, I watched it last night after downloading it and a lot of the darker scenes were way more clearer and looked way less pixelated than when I watched it live.
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Pretty pissed off if thats the case as I could have downloaded it and it would have been much better to watch! Tempted to do that anyway as might see detail I missed first time. It does make sense actually that
 
Mr Bob said:
Well we should all make an agreement that anyone who spills about unreleased episodes will be hunted down and castrated.
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Was watching the cricket today (Yorkshire) and Mark Butcher basically said what happened! Got to be one of the hardest to avoid spoilers this one as it's everywhere on the internet too.
 
Just watched Vice on a plane
Story of Dick Cheney (played by Christian Bale, but you wouldn’t believe it) becoming Vice President of USA

Absolutely brilliant
 
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