Off Topic Moyes Advanced Talks

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red&white wanderer said:
Not too happy with this if true - feel we'll have more boring organised football - not necessarily winning either - Everton were often struggling and they were in a better place to attract players - Gus Poyet failed because the top players would'nt come
Problem is timing BSA was seen as a manager to sort us out and provide football nous - well accomplished and was taking us upwards -his short time has left a legacy and a feel good positive club.
Moyes went to Man Utd who needed continuity after Fergie's legacy - he failed to get the club & fans backing. I just feel it's not the right time to come here as assessment of players etc takes time and he does not strike me as a winner - Everton under performed with the quality of players he had . We are the constant sleeping giant and I don't see him waking us up - continuous struggle and disruption as normal - not happy but hope I'm wrong as many on here were about BSA appt <cheers>
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He spent £11m net in 11 years mate.

We had no right even being a PL outfit ffs, and yet he delivered 8 top 7 finishes in 11 years.
 
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Bri OBE said:
Yeah Moyes' Everton had one bad season in 11 years fella.
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But the quality players he had could and should have done better in my opinion.
But I feel Moyes will struggle for SIMILAR reasons as at Man U - - expectation and style - we were starting to play well under BSA - but hope I'm as wrong as the BSA doubters - only opinions we all want success don't think Moyes is the man - Laudrup - yes
 
red&white wanderer said:
But the quality players he had could and should have done better in my opinion.
But I feel Moyes will struggle for SIMILAR reasons as at Man U - - expectation and style - we were starting to play well under BSA - but hope I'm as wrong as the BSA doubters - only opinions we all want success don't think Moyes is the man - Laudrup - yes
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Compairing us to Man U is like compairing Floyd mayweather jnr to Billy Hardy
 
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red&white wanderer said:
Not too happy with this if true - feel we'll have more boring organised football - not necessarily winning either - Everton were often struggling and they were in a better place to attract players - Gus Poyet failed because the top players would'nt come
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Problem is timing BSA was seen as a manager to sort us out and provide football nous - well accomplished and was taking us upwards -his short time has left a legacy and a feel good positive club.
Moyes went to Man Utd who needed continuity after Fergie's legacy - he failed to get the club & fans backing. I just feel it's not the right time to come here as assessment of players etc takes time and he does not strike me as a winner - Everton under performed with the quality of players he had . We are the constant sleeping giant and I don't see him waking us up - continuous struggle and disruption as normal - not happy but hope I'm wrong as many on here were about BSA appt <cheers>
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Well I was happy with Sam and he was just what we needed so I'm obviously right about Moyes too. I'm joking but when Sam goes I think the best we could want for now is for someone in a roughly similar mouldy to carry on his work and that's what we'll get.

Edit: roughly similar mouldy?

Moyes has got that air of glorious mid table mediocrity about him which is all I want for now. Tired of feeling sick every weekend over the football results. I wouldn't be surprised if he could do better than mid table either, he's certainly good enough and I think he'll like a lot of the players we have now.

I'm prepared to write off his time at United, it was literally an impossible task following after Ferguson. I'm not convinced Mourinho can do it either, it's a bloody difficult job. And besides, Moyes did relatively alright, it's not like he had them hovering above relegation like Jose did with Chelsea.
 
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red&white wanderer said:
But the quality players he had could and should have done better in my opinion.
But I feel Moyes will struggle for SIMILAR reasons as at Man U - - expectation and style - we were starting to play well under BSA - but hope I'm as wrong as the BSA doubters - only opinions we all want success don't think Moyes is the man - Laudrup - yes
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You just stayed up by the skin of your teeth under Sam, so how can the expectation be compared with United? or the supposed 'style' for that matter?

You were hardly the entertainers under the big lad were you?
 
red&white wanderer said:
Did not compare to Man U only he will probably fail here for SIMILAR reasons - fan expectation and playing style - haway man honestly we are well below Man U
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But we dont have the same expectations as Man U. Well not most i would guess. They win titles after titles, we avoid relegation season after season. We want better. Man U expect titles.
 
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red&white wanderer said:
Did not compare to Man U only he will probably fail here for SIMILAR reasons - fan expectation and playing style - haway man honestly we are well below Man U
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I'd say fan expectation is very low, staying up in relative comfort isn't exactly winning the treble and I doubt anyone really gives a **** about our playing style as long as it gets us points and keeps the stadium rocking as a result. I remember Everton playing nice football under Moyes anyway.
 
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SAFC Nacho said:
Well I was happy with Sam and he was just what we needed so I'm obviously right about Moyes too. I'm joking but when Sam goes I think the best we could want for now is for someone in a roughly similar mouldy to carry on his work and that's what we'll get.

Moyes has got that air of glorious mid table mediocrity about him which is all I want for now. Tired of feeling sick every weekend over the football results. I wouldn't be surprised if he could do better than mid table either, he's certainly good enough and I think he'll like a lot of the players we have now.

I'm prepared to write off his time at United, it was literally an impossible task following after Ferguson. I'm not convinced Mourinho can do it either, it's a bloody difficult job. And besides, Moyes did relatively alright, it's not like he had them hovering above relegation like Jose did with Chelsea.
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Agree but Everton often struggled and flirted with the bottom of the table before progressing - don't want that any more.
He's got a lot of sorting to do but hopefully it's my opinions wrong
commachio1 said:
Go find a suitable wall. Pick a spot and repeatedly aim forehead at said spot. You may aswell.
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Is that what what you do ?
 
red&white wanderer said:
Agree but Everton often struggled and flirted with the bottom of the table before progressing - don't want that any more.
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We didn't though.

Moyes last 7 seasons at Goodison;

2006-07 38 11 4 4 33 17 4 9 6 19 19 +16 58 6th
2007-08 38 11 4 4 34 17 8 4 7 21 16 +22 65 5th
2008-09 38 8 6 5 31 20 9 6 4 24 17 +18 63 5th
2009-10 38 11 6 2 35 21 5 7 7 25 28 +11 61 8th
2010-11 38 9 7 3 31 23 4 8 7 20 22 +6 54 7th
2011-12 38 10 3 6 28 15 5 8 6 22 25 +10 56 7th
2012-13 38 12 6 1 33 17 4 9 6 22 23 +15 63 6th

Not much flirting with the bottom going on there like..........
 
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Tobes said:
We didn't though.

Moyes last 7 seasons at Goodison;

2006-07 38 11 4 4 33 17 4 9 6 19 19 +16 58 6th
2007-08 38 11 4 4 34 17 8 4 7 21 16 +22 65 5th
2008-09 38 8 6 5 31 20 9 6 4 24 17 +18 63 5th
2009-10 38 11 6 2 35 21 5 7 7 25 28 +11 61 8th
2010-11 38 9 7 3 31 23 4 8 7 20 22 +6 54 7th
2011-12 38 10 3 6 28 15 5 8 6 22 25 +10 56 7th
2012-13 38 12 6 1 33 17 4 9 6 22 23 +15 63 6th

Not much flirting with the bottom going on there like..........
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Return to that wall.
 
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red&white wanderer said:
But the quality players he had could and should have done better in my opinion.
But I feel Moyes will struggle for SIMILAR reasons as at Man U - - expectation and style - we were starting to play well under BSA - but hope I'm as wrong as the BSA doubters - only opinions we all want success don't think Moyes is the man - Laudrup - yes
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He had Everton competing in the top half of the season on a shoe string. Then You're comparing us to man u saying it's similar when it they couldn't be more different. He'll need to improve Sunderland on a shoestring, it's way more comparable to what was asked of him at Everton.
 
Tobes said:
We didn't though.

Moyes last 7 seasons at Goodison;

2006-07 38 11 4 4 33 17 4 9 6 19 19 +16 58 6th
2007-08 38 11 4 4 34 17 8 4 7 21 16 +22 65 5th
2008-09 38 8 6 5 31 20 9 6 4 24 17 +18 63 5th
2009-10 38 11 6 2 35 21 5 7 7 25 28 +11 61 8th
2010-11 38 9 7 3 31 23 4 8 7 20 22 +6 54 7th
2011-12 38 10 3 6 28 15 5 8 6 22 25 +10 56 7th
2012-13 38 12 6 1 33 17 4 9 6 22 23 +15 63 6th

Not much flirting with the bottom going on there like..........
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Yes but during some seasons were nearer the bottom before progressing . I'm not saying he was'nt a success - with the quality of player he had feel he could have done better
I like Everton but I just feel not to sure about Moyes being here now
 
red&white wanderer said:
Agree but Everton often struggled and flirted with the bottom of the table before progressing - don't want that any more.
He's got a lot of sorting to do but hopefully it's my opinions wrong
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Again, 1 bottom half finish in 11 years. You need to go do some homework then maybe reevaluate your opinion once you're armed with proper information,
 
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