Match Day Thread Middlesbrough v Hull City

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PLT said:
We make way too much of an issue of people like Slater or Traore playing on the wing. Realistically Slater is the obvious player to come in tomorrow and unless we tweak the shape of the midfield to not have out and out wingers, he'll be on the wing. People obsess over "correct positions" but sometimes you don't have the ideal player available in every position and at times it makes more sense to play a good player slightly out of position than to play a worse player. Slater on the wing has always been fine, he often scores goals from there. Traore has had a disappointing season on the whole, but he's had good and bad games both in the middle and out wide.
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Im not sure I agree with you on this.

Slater and Traore absolutely can play there, but as a team I think we look much less effective when we dont have at least one proper wide player on the wing.

It feels like when we do play the likes of Slater/Traore/Tufan/Twine out wide, we get the ball forward much slower and the intricate passing game comes in. That’s when I think we struggle to break down teams as well.

It seemed like our form turned a corner when Jaden (and latterly Lokilo) started playing regularly, so I’d be interested in how the stats compare. It might just be me preferring proper wingers and therefore be my head being biased.

A winger would be my top priority in Jan.
 
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Drew said:
Im not sure I agree with you on this.

Slater and Traore absolutely can play there, but as a team I think we look much less effective when we dont have at least one proper wide player on the wing.

It feels like when we do play the likes of Slater/Traore/Tufan/Twine out wide, we get the ball forward much slower and the intricate passing game comes in. That’s when I think we struggle to break down teams as well.

It seemed like our form turned a corner when Jaden (and latterly Lokilo) started playing regularly, so I’d be interested in how the stats compare. It might just be me preferring proper wingers and therefore be my head being biased.

A winger would be my top priority in Jan.
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Roseys said a number of times he wants to play with 2 proper wingers. His system clearly benefits from it. Problem comes when you don't have any available. Then you have to play what you've got as a best fit.

If we had decent wide players available and they weren't playing then that's one thing. But the debate becomes a little arbitrary when theyre all out injured.
 
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M88 EVN said:
Delap on the right again, Connolly up top?
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Seems Vinagres back. I'd be tempted to play Slater inside left of midfield for defensive security with vinagre on the overlap down the left. Seem to recall us doing that earlier this season to decent effect.

Maybe also consider Christie ahead of Coyle on the right if we want to try to maximise natural width. Guess Vaughan could be an option on the left also. Tufan did okay coming off the right towards the end of last season also.

We still have options. If not out and out wingers to satisfy the 'round pegs in round holes' brigade.
 
Mckechnie Orange said:
Seems Vinagres back. I'd be tempted to play Slater inside left of midfield for defensive security with vinagre on the overlap down the left. Seem to recall us doing that earlier this season to decent effect.

Maybe also consider Christie ahead of Coyle on the right if we want to try to maximise natural width. Guess Vaughan could be an option on the left also. Tufan did okay coming off the right towards the end of last season also.

We still have options. If not out and out wingers to satisfy the 'round pegs in round holes' brigade.
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Oh no!! Now he hurt his back?

Bad luck
 
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Mckechnie Orange said:
Seems Vinagres back. I'd be tempted to play Slater inside left of midfield for defensive security with vinagre on the overlap down the left. Seem to recall us doing that earlier this season to decent effect.

Maybe also consider Christie ahead of Coyle on the right if we want to try to maximise natural width. Guess Vaughan could be an option on the left also. Tufan did okay coming off the right towards the end of last season also.

We still have options. If not out and out wingers to satisfy the 'round pegs in round holes' brigade.
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But that means dropping Seri or Morton which seems unlikely?
 
M88 EVN said:
Delap on the right again, Connolly up top?
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This is a good point that I've not seen anyone else mention. I'd forgotten how often he's played right wing in the absence of available wingers.
 
PLT said:
He said the words "go to a 3" but I think he was talking about the midfield, not a back 3. He's said before that he never wants us to play a back 3 out of possession because it doesn't fit in with the high pressing he wants us to do. We do at times have 3 at the back when we have the ball but I wouldn't ever expect to see us play an out and out 3-5-2 under Rosenior.
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Sometimes away from home you have to be a bit more pragmatic, 352 in possession and 532 out of possession. It just looks more balanced to have wing backs, Vinagre/Christie or Coyle when we don't have out-and-out wingers. Yes. Harry Vaughan might get his chance on the left, but we still will look unbalanced with no natural winger on the right. As you say, LIam probably won't start in that way, but sometimes needs must, and it just looks more balanced to me. But there again what do I know!
 
Hello guys, seems like this won't be available by regular means in tigers plus. I'm thinking about getting a VPN for these recurring situation. Any advice, which is a good one for the task?

Good luck tomorrow. Up the Tigers
 
Peruvian tiger said:
Hello guys, seems like this won't be available by regular means. I'm thinking about getting a VPN for these recurring situation. Any advice, which is a goog one for the task?

Good luck tomorrow. Up the Tigers
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I thought all midweek games were available on T+ regardless?
 
HCAFCHangout said:
on sky locally so it’s blacked out I believe
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Ah ok - my mistake, thought even Sky mid-week was available on T+. Good thing I got a week free trial on our streaming service down here as we were also televised for QPR.

Plenty of televised games coming up too so might just grab it for a month.
 
Tough game this.

We are very similar in terms of current form over the last 6 games but they have reasonable home form and will be looking to take 3 points from the game.Heart's saying we can go and get something from this,head is thinking otherwise.

Safe journey to those travelling to what is normally a good day out as a Saturday fixture but for some obscure reason is arranged for a mid-week...
 
If Vinagre is fit, I would be keen to see him start left back and Twine left wing. It worked so well against Leicester with Twine coming inside and Vinagre pushing ahead and making the runs giving the width. Twine also puts the shift in to help protect and cover when Vinagre is wanting to attack.

I don’t think they have played together on that wing since, which is pretty mad really, as they complimented each other perfectly and it looked like it would become and excellent partnership.
 
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