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Coates may be worth £5 billion but he "only" put into Stoke City £100 million of his fortune. The Allams are worth considerably less but have put £80 million into Hull City.

Coates with his £100 million bought the stadium freehold, developed the training facilities and saw Stoke City become an established Premier League team. I would say Coates has done a better job of spending his money than the Allams.

Coates firm is worth 5 billion. His personal worth on the rich list was put at about £740 million. Not bad for one of 14 children whose dad was a miner and who left school at 14.
We have 2 brothers locally worth a lot more each. A shame they aren't interested in their local club.
 
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And now we are massively more in debt compared to when the Allah's came in despite having the most successful spell in our history. Southampton have paid off £15 million in debt a year or so ago and still owe £31 million in loans to their owner, which they pay interest of 5% on. With a stadium which they own and which holds 30% more than our rented one with a training ground and academybset up which is amongst the best in the country they have made the most of their time in the PL and are in a better state than we are.
Because they had more investment silly. That the Allams dont have.
So 1 % higher than the Allams charge... the ****s them.
Theyve made the most of it because they have had longer as they had more investment in better players.

Its not rocket science is it. .
 
Coates may be worth £5 billion but he "only" put into Stoke City £100 million of his fortune. The Allams are worth considerably less but have put £80 million into Hull City.

Coates with his £100 million bought the stadium freehold, developed the training facilities and saw Stoke City become an established Premier League team. I would say Coates has done a better job of spending his money than the Allams.
Cooates was chairman of Stoke previously, how did that go? Death threats and abuse.
Why did he come back?
"'But it didn't work out because it's much harder than people think. So they ran out of money and began to sell assets off — a player or whatever — and I could see another downward spiral for Stoke. By then I had the money so I thought I would come back and have one last go.

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And now we are massively more in debt compared to when the Allah's came in despite having the most successful spell in our history. Southampton have paid off £15 million in debt a year or so ago and still owe £31 million in loans to their owner, which they pay interest of 5% on. With a stadium which they own and which holds 30% more than our rented one with a training ground and academybset up which is amongst the best in the country they have made the most of their time in the PL and are in a better state than we are.
So how do you propose we get to own our own stadium and have exclusive use of it like Soton? Who should pay for a Soton style academy? Finally, where do you suggest we get an owner with as much money and generosity as Sotons?

Makes me laugh, you're comparing apples and cars, and trying to justify stupid comparisons.
 
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So, as a pensioner I could take my 2 grandkids, both still at primary school to Championship games for £1404 where I used to sit. Meanwhile at a number of PL clubs, Huddersfield particularly, it will be a whole lot cheaper. At Middlesbrough, in the family zone it would be £408 or in the equivalent to our East Stand where I sat £704. At the other relegated club, Sunderland, the family zone would be £420 for myself and the two grandkids, and at the side of the pitch on either side the same price.
Wonder which of the relegated teams will lose the highest percentage of fans?
 
So how do you propose we get to own our own stadium and have exclusive use of it like Soton? Who should pay for a Soton style academy? Finally, where do you suggest we get an owner with as much money and generosity as Sotons?

Makes me laugh, you're comparing apples and cars, and trying to justify stupid comparisons.

I must admit apples and cars are totally different propositions.
 
Cooates was chairman of Stoke previously, how did that go? Death threats and abuse.
Why did he come back?
"'But it didn't work out because it's much harder than people think. So they ran out of money and began to sell assets off — a player or whatever — and I could see another downward spiral for Stoke. By then I had the money so I thought I would come back and have one last go.

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Is the Coates family involved? Or just the old man. Mind you either way there is a lot more money available than will ever be available to City.
 
We went up with Stoke and West Brom in 2008..
They stayed up we didn't.
Brum and Derby came down and stayed down.
And your point is?
Don't bring facts into it. It doesn't suit the narrative of some posters.
What narrative? We aren't owned b people as rich as stoke who have invested far more,than our owners canand are willing to invest.
Actually, after going up in 2007/08 with Stoke and West Brom, we stayed up and West Brom went down.
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Cooates was chairman of Stoke previously, how did that go? Death threats and abuse.
Why did he come back?
"'But it didn't work out because it's much harder than people think. So they ran out of money and began to sell assets off — a player or whatever — and I could see another downward spiral for Stoke. By then I had the money so I thought I would come back and have one last go.

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He had more money then he needed. He initially put in £40 million, converted that to shares and has now put in another £60 million. Yes he could have put in double or triple that but he didn't. He has only put in £20 million more than the Allams.
 
He had more money then he needed. He initially put in £40 million, converted that to shares and has now put in another £60 million. Yes he could have put in double or triple that but he didn't. He has only put in £20 million more than the Allams.

So, if the money wasn't much different they were better run? Though it is hard to believe that anyone can run their business better than our owners. And it was all done without shortening their common and and lousy name to Stoke Potters to appeal to the world wide market for plate and cup users.
 
He had more money then he needed. He initially put in £40 million, converted that to shares and has now put in another £60 million. Yes he could have put in double or triple that but he didn't. He has only put in £20 million more than the Allams.
I'm leaving it obi you just won't see it. From 2010.
These days, Stoke City are essentially debt-free (with the exception of Matthew Etherington’s gambling debts), being in the enviable position of having virtually no bank loans and £10 million of cash in the bank. As Tony Pulis said, “This is a great testament to the Coates family, who have put so much into the club.”

That’s absolutely right, as the club’s progress has been funded via interest-free loans from the chairman’s pocket. As at the last year-end (31 May 2009), Stoke City owed £17 million to its parent company. Stoke City Holdings Limited, which is to all intents and purposes the Coates family. However, the accounts then noted that this debt had “risen considerably” to £24 million, following the summer 2009 and January 2010 transfer windows.

Not to worry, as the Coates family have since converted these loans into capital in order to “put the club in a strong financial position, leaving the club unencumbered by debt.” This is not their first act of kindness, as the £8.3 million loan used for the 2006 investment was also converted into shares in the same way.

There’s no doubt that Stoke fans owe Peter Coates and his family a great deal. Since his return, they have invested nearly £40 million into the club: £3.7 million to complete the purchase followed by £32.3 million of loans, which they subsequently wiped clear by converting them into equity. Without this investment, the club would not just have struggled, but would have been in serious trouble.

If you can't see it after that and how,it's,different I give up.
 
We went up with Stoke and West Brom in 2008..
They stayed up we didn't.
Brum and Derby came down and stayed down.

Nah. You're wrong as pointed out by others, plus Brum came up for our second PL season, stayed up and won the League Cup before heading back whence they came a couple of years later.

The only truly correct part of your post was the first sentence.
 
Memberships are available now!

Prices start at just £21 per month - that's only £10.96 per game!

We have 3 Membership options available:

You must log in or register to see images


Zone 1 at £21 per month, £10.96 per game

Zone 2 at £27 per month, £14.09 per game

Zone 3 at £39 per month, £20.35 per game



Our Membership is a monthly rolling contract, payments are made by direct debit which makes it more affordable and easier to manage - so you can get a lifetime of Membership until you cancel!

There are a number of Membership benefits including; a guaranteed seat for all Championship home games, as well as priority on away tickets, Cup games and Tiger Travel.

In addition, your Membership includes our new rewards scheme Tigers Rewards - a scheme specifically designed to reward fans for their support and interaction with the Club. You can find out more about Tigers Rewards here.

Our Membership is flexible, you can cancel at any time, however we require 2 full calendar months' written notice. Please be aware that a joining fee will be applicable if re-joining within a 12-month period. For terms and conditions of Membership please go to link to Membership terms and conditions.



If you are interested in becoming a Member you can contact us by:

Calling our Sales Centre on 01482 358418

E-mailing us at: [email protected]

https://www.hullcitytigers.com/news/articles/2017/201718-membership-available-now/
I am colour-blind so am a mite puzzled about what looks grey to me on the graphic.
e.g. sections W5- W9. What's the monthly cost there ? Same as Zone 3 or more ?
Can't seem to find anything in the text of the document.
Ta.