McNair
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We keep a player who's head has been turned and who has expressed an interest to leave? Once it gets to January it's the last 18 months of his contract and clubs could offer a few million with a message of take that or he'll be on a free, next year.
And what if we're in a position of strength by then?
Like being in the top two, he might just accept staying anyway then.
Okay then, so you're prepared to gamble half of his transfer fee on us being in the top 2 and him having a change of heart?
We might not need too. Every player has a price, though. Giving the potential circumstances we've gone through, along with question marks over his fitness, I think five million would be a decent deal for us.
I don't think so. Itd be ****ing stupid if we sell him for what we bought him for
So would you rather lose out on another transfer fee for a player rather than get five million for him?
We are a league one team, he's got 2 years left on his contract, question marks over his fitness, he's not exactly a star. I don't think five million is a crap fee, at all.
So he got a bad injury, and there's question marks over his fitness? There's not like.
If Brighton want him that badly they'll pay more than what we bought him for, or he stays here.
Premier League>League 1. That's the only thing that counts. A player who wants to leave will find a way and potentially We'll be without a player and without a decent fee for him. The Dortmund model that the new owners are keen to implement means selling players for the optimum return at the right time. Not hanging on to them and losing out financially. It's looking increasingly like now is the right time to sell him.
Yeah mate but the right time and right price is what's up for debate and our fan base is split on this. Personally I think a lot of people are completely forgetting to factor the Prem mark up. I think anything below 7m is ellis Short level of soft. 10m represents his value plus mark up imo.
I think a lot depends on what Paddy wants to do, if he wants to go then cash in on him quick hopefully get somewhere between 5 and 7 mil and reinvest it into the squad before the season starts / as early in pre season as possible. If he wants to stay then we can hold teams to ransom and ask for big money knowing if we don’t get it we’re left with a good player who wants to be here.
I like McNair and think when fit he’d be the stand out player in league one but I’m a little concerned over his injury record, the lad has been unavailable through injury for most of his Sunderland career.
I like McNair and think when fit he’d be the stand out player in league one but I’m a little concerned over his injury record, the lad has been unavailable through injury for most of his Sunderland career.
Paddy McNair will have to hand in a transfer request if he wants to leave Sunderland – after owner Stewart Donald said he has no intention of cashing in on the in-demand midfielder.McNair has emerged as a top transfer target for a number of clubs this summer, with Premier League side Brighton & Hove Albion having already had two bids rejected.
The second offer, worth £3.75million, was again dismissed out of hand by Donald, who says Sunderland want to keep hold of the Northern Irishman unless the player himself says he wants to go.
Brighton increase their offer, but not by much as they view McNair as a squad player at this stage, and with Sunderland under no financial pressure to sell that leaves the ball in McNair’s court.
McNair spoke on international duty about his desire to play in the Premier League again, but Sunderland are hoping he stays at the club next season as manager Jack Ross looks to build a squad to get them out of League One at the first attempt.
“It’s straightforward,” said Donald, speaking on Wise Men Say podcast.
“I think most people within football realise Paddy McNair is likely to be the best midfielder in League One. On that business we don’t want to lose him.
“He’s got two years left on his contract and he hasn’t expressed a desire to leave at this stage.
“If he doesn’t want to leave and Jack wants him to in his team, he’s going nowhere.
“That will be down to Paddy, if we get an offer that we feel is acceptable, which we won’t.
“So on that basis he’s not for sale.
“It would be down to Paddy to come to us and say I really want to leave.”
Donald is wise enough to know, however, that keeping unhappy players is not always possible – just as getting rid of players on big contracts, like Jack Rodwell, can prove difficult.
He added: “Have we got any intention of selling him (McNair)? Absolutely not. But in the modern world of football it is a transient business.
“You can’t control completely your players because it seems to be in modern football, as we’re finding out, if you’re signed to Sunderland and your player wants to stay but you don’t want them to, you’re stuck with them.
“If they want to leave and you have got a contract, they always tend to find a way to leave.
“It’s about finding the right balance. We’re not ridiculous – we now that if we get offers in for our players and there’s a real desire to leave it becomes about doing the best we can.
“But at this stage the offer camne in for Paddy but it was one of four or five offers for Paddy. They’re all ‘no’.
“We’ve got no intention of selling Paddy McNair and Jack, I think, will take the view that he probably wants to build the team around him.”
The second offer, worth £3.75million, was again dismissed out of hand by Donald, who says Sunderland want to keep hold of the Northern Irishman unless the player himself says he wants to go.
Brighton increase their offer, but not by much as they view McNair as a squad player at this stage, and with Sunderland under no financial pressure to sell that leaves the ball in McNair’s court.
McNair spoke on international duty about his desire to play in the Premier League again, but Sunderland are hoping he stays at the club next season as manager Jack Ross looks to build a squad to get them out of League One at the first attempt.
“It’s straightforward,” said Donald, speaking on Wise Men Say podcast.
“I think most people within football realise Paddy McNair is likely to be the best midfielder in League One. On that business we don’t want to lose him.
“He’s got two years left on his contract and he hasn’t expressed a desire to leave at this stage.
“If he doesn’t want to leave and Jack wants him to in his team, he’s going nowhere.
“That will be down to Paddy, if we get an offer that we feel is acceptable, which we won’t.
“So on that basis he’s not for sale.
“It would be down to Paddy to come to us and say I really want to leave.”
Donald is wise enough to know, however, that keeping unhappy players is not always possible – just as getting rid of players on big contracts, like Jack Rodwell, can prove difficult.
He added: “Have we got any intention of selling him (McNair)? Absolutely not. But in the modern world of football it is a transient business.
“You can’t control completely your players because it seems to be in modern football, as we’re finding out, if you’re signed to Sunderland and your player wants to stay but you don’t want them to, you’re stuck with them.
“If they want to leave and you have got a contract, they always tend to find a way to leave.
“It’s about finding the right balance. We’re not ridiculous – we now that if we get offers in for our players and there’s a real desire to leave it becomes about doing the best we can.
“But at this stage the offer camne in for Paddy but it was one of four or five offers for Paddy. They’re all ‘no’.
“We’ve got no intention of selling Paddy McNair and Jack, I think, will take the view that he probably wants to build the team around him.”
Refreshing! Sort of puts a cap on the "Everybody has their price" thing as well - he's not for sale unless he asks to leave!
These press comments about his desire to play in the premier league - from what I remember it was more along the lines of I want to get back to the premier league - not "I want to play there next season"
Every player in this country worth his salt wants to play in the premier league.
It goes to show how far we've come in just a month since the takeover if players worth over 5m are not for sale when we're in League 1.
Everybody at the club including the tea lady was free to leave not that long ago.
Everybody at the club including the tea lady was free to leave not that long ago.
And you think he is worth what, think you said you would accept what we paid for him or less, because we got relegated, pleased your not part of our Brexit negotiations.