I reakon about £7 mill is a good price anything under that just say no.
McNair
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If it is 7m I would want a % cut on the next move as it could be a big one, certainly a lot more than 7m, I reacon he's worth 10m now. With a proven fitness record, choosing between McNair and Grealish I know who I would take.
We have McNair on a contract so no crap from either the player if he wants to move on or other clubs who are trying to get him on the cheap. If we need advice on a good contract we should ask Rodwell. After all he’s been putting his in our face for three years...
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sp...___5m_offer_for_Sunderland_midfielder_McNair/
So what we paid for him?
Aye, righto Brighton. Nice try
So what we paid for him?
Aye, righto Brighton. Nice try
Agree with this - he didn't quite look up to scratch for the Premier league. He's a decent player with a dodgy injury record.
We have to also take into account that we are a league one club and 5 million for McNair is good business.
I see it like that too - when fit he looked every bit a good championship player. His fitness became a problem only after suffering a career threatening injury as he was fine before that - if he gets a full pre season behind him and stays fit he's a top half Championship player - which, by today's standards, makes him a £10-15m player. He gets goals and can create and can pass a football - he may not quite be a premier league player (although Mourinho wanted him to stay at OT apparently) but he is, if he stays fit, comfortably a top half/ play off level championship player.
I suppose the key part of my post is the "If he stays fit"!
Err no. We'll dictate the price, if a club had fell into this league with messi, id still expect him to be worth what the club value him at.
You've got it the wrong way round. A player is only worth what somebody is willing to pay for him.
Sure we'll get a fair price. Just think it will be a realistic price. We won't be having anyone's eyes out as some are hoping. We'll take a loss, be thankful we got a decent fee from a bad signing and move on.
We're in league 1 so we're very much on the wrong end of a buyer's market.
No sure where you get that he's a bad signing - he suffereed a major injury which made him miss an entire season - he's had niggles since coming back - as I said earlier - I think he's a good championship player (easily upper mid table if not play off level minimum) who hasn't been able to get fully fit after missing a year. If he gets pre season under his belt and stays fit, he'll be an asset
He's certainly a goal scorer, got some great ones last season.
I was referring to Wahbi and dongalong there chief. I think McNair is handy but dispensible.
Should have been clearer. All these threads are going along similar lines.
A bit of an over-simplification.
Have you considered what a player might be worth to his parent Club.
For example Keeper's have, traditionally, been relatively cheap.
We paid a British record of £8mil for Gordon when the record for an outfield player was £30mil
But as we discovered a good keeper is worth a lot more than his transfer fee.
So it's not a case of how much someone is prepared to offer so much as how much it takes to get the selling club to agree to the deal.
Prem league may never be the lad's level, but he could be instrumental in a return to that league which would net us 100m+ So if nobody thinks he's worth 10m, he could be worth more to us keeping him.
Our budget for this season is already been decided, no sales are needed to bulk out the budget. We don't need to sell. He's only had two injuries for us so unfair to call him prone because one of them had a long lay off imo. We've got a winter window and another summer window before he starts his final year. I'd have the balls to hold on to him for now at least if nobody is going to pay over the odds(which is what we should be asking any prem club to do)
Our budget for this season is already been decided, no sales are needed to bulk out the budget. We don't need to sell. He's only had two injuries for us so unfair to call him prone because one of them had a long lay off imo. We've got a winter window and another summer window before he starts his final year. I'd have the balls to hold on to him for now at least if nobody is going to pay over the odds(which is what we should be asking any prem club to do)
But what very few on here seem to be taking into account is that our League 1 status reduces our negotiating strength. As we have seen countless times, contracts are comparatively meaningless in football and if a player decides he wants to leave then players and agents are often able to force through a move. When a club higher up the league pyramid comes calling for a lower league player, the bargaining position of that player's club is limited, no matter what financial position they are in or what contracts are in place. We should be doing everything we can to hang on to our better players but there will be a price that we have to sell at and that price is likely to be closer to 5 million than it is to 10 million.
Our 'STATUS' is what The Board wants to make, providing of course that they can afford to .
Oddly, for SAFC, we may well be in the strongest position in the division, indeed stronger than most in The Championship.
No Bank debt.
Parachute payments due.
New inwards investment.
While players are often able to force through moves it also happens, on rare occasions it's true, that a Club will stand firm.
Leicester have done so a number of times.
MU have hung onto DeGea despite intense pressure from Real Madrid.
There is a difference between being bullied into transferring a player and letting him go in response to an 'offer they couldn't refuse'.
Everything you say would be true enough if Ellis had remained the owner.
But the new situation puts us, SAFC, in an odd position and it's one that wont last.
We should though take advantage of it while we can.
But to a footballer our status is still as a League 1 club. It doesn't matter what levels of debt there may or not be, staying at SAFC will still entail at least two seasons outside of the Premier League and in the short career of a professional footballer that's a long time away from the top table.
Leicester have managed to hang on to certain players (although I'd argue that neither of their chief assets are good enough for the big clubs and the one truly top class player was off to Chelsea at the first opportunity) but they can offer Premier League football and Manchester United can also offer Premier League football and European competition.
The new ownership, the parachute payments, and the league we are now in do make us an unusual case in many respects but our advantage is over clubs at our level and perhaps over clubs in the bottom half of the Championship. Not over any Premier League clubs that may want our players. It's not just money that talks in this situation. It's prestige too.