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McGeady (again)

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  1. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    McGeady thought, probably correctly, that he was too big for League One.

    Maguire thought, probably correct, ‘this is the biggest club I’ll ever play for and I don’t wanna toss it’

    McGeady was set for life after his move to Russia and it probably stopped him having a top, top career.

    If his focus and fitness had matched his natural ability he could easily played for a United or a Liverpool. Easily.

    He was linked with the top clubs while at Celtic but at the time Spartak offered him outrageous money and you can’t blame the lad for taking it.
     
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  2. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff
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    Absolutely. As fans, so many say “we’ll that wasn’t a football decision”, but few say “he’s looking after himself and setting himself up for life. Well done”. Easy for people to criticise but I wonder how many would put their “job” ahead of their future!
     
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  3. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    I’d have done exactly what he did. He could have got injured, dropped off the map. Take a 4 year deal, bank tens of millions before you’re 25? ****ing rights mate.
     
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    smithy in nl Well-Known Member

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    see what your saying mate be he was playing injured for probably half a season, taking injections to get through games.
     
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  5. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff
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    McGeady's wages are not an issue for the salary cap. Players must be included in the "squad" for their wages to be included - and he probably won't be!!

    (This is from the Sunderland echo)

    So this whole EFL thing which is (paraphrasing) to ensure lower league clubs live to their means, means that we can't enforce a player ourt of favour to leave and we still have to play him. But, as he's on relatively astronomical wages (for our division), we don't have to count his wages as long as we don't name him. But we still have to pay his wages?

    Seriously, this is pointless and surely also proving just how stupid the salary cap is!
     
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    Whilst it’s true he isn’t covered under cap, it would still free up a big chunk that we could spend if he went (and save us a fortune, he took a pay cut from 31k to around 20k I believe)
     
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    So you tolerate bullying of younger players ? It was when the bullying came to light that the manager had to take action and rightly so , personally I wouldn’t have him training with the U23 group .
     
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    Hmm some posters have argued that if we do a legal challenge to this Cap we would win?
     
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    I don't see how it's legal. You are effectively hamstringing anyone who makes a decent amount of money. They brought in the "wages can't be more than x percent of turnover" which, for SAFC, is significantly higher than most in our division (due to support etc.) Now they've changed it to a maximum of 2.5m or whatever regardless of annual turnover??

    Imagine if they suddenly told all premier league clubs they were limited to spending £100k per player per week (around £100m a year based on 20 squad players over 22 years old) players would jump ship and go to one of the Spanish/French/German leagues in no time.

    Whilst your Crystal Palaces and perennial strugglers would be delighted at the prospect, Man City, Liverpool, United (etc. etc. etc.) would likely try form their own "super league" in order to avoid this. Whereas, as it's "just" the third division, no one will give a **** seemingly!!

    Shows just how little effort the EFL will put in to our league (and, let's be honest, 5 years before we ended up here - or even 3, we never thought anything of it).

    Just hope we can get out of it. But I also hope that some of our "entitled" fans (We have quite a few looking at Twatter and facebook) will remember where we have been and show a lot more respect for those down here. I know I will!!
     
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    I think the wage cap will get passed (they have one in rugby), but I think it will have to be phased in gradually.

    If it’s legal in rugby, then it surely CAN be in football, just not sure how they can just drop it in 4 weeks before season starts.

    The rugby one is £7million foxes but 2 players excluded which they say can be used for ‘world class talent’.
     
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    See this is what I don’t get. He was bullying younger players so his punishment for doing that is to train with the younger players?
     
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    He doesn’t count
    https://www.sunderlandecho.com/spor...onfusion-over-aiden-mcgeady-clarified-2958025
     
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    McGeady has been an arsehole for his entire career.

    The supporters forgive him, because he's entertaining, but he's too much trouble ...

    ... he's like an incontinent dog who does tricks for visitors but shytes all over the carpet when they've gone.
     
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    Don’t think it was just the younger players , he picked on anyone and everyone without exception , I don’t know if we have to provide training facilities ? If not I would be inclined to say stop away !
     
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    Where you getting £20k pw from?
     
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    Apparently he was a bully and a lot of players were sick of him thinking he was billy big bollocks.
    I disagree and think it was strong of Parky. Especially as he was considered our best player.
    The team improved because of it and goes to show one man doth not maketh a team ;)
     
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    On paper the front three of McGeady, Grigg and Maguire looked unstoppable, on the pitch they were a shambles, one down and a distinct improvement in the other two says that Parky called it right, but its still a work in progress, and for me there is no place for McGeady, good as he is.
     
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