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I'd only use it if it does not impact on the flow of the game. I'd have to watch a few games with it in use to comment.

The premise of it is obviously sound. Anything to make the game fairer. However if, as I think it might, change the game and the way it flows to being more like rugby, tennis or cricket, then I don't want it. They have natural breaks. Even rugby is not what it was now. I sat through the 6 nations and there were times I thought it was definitely detracting from the game. They were going back right through moves looking for the slightest infringement. The games in question lost some of their passion as a result. It was like deflating a balloon or losing a hard on due to too much alcohol.

We've got to be careful. Cricket is a game that lends itself to video referrals - they can actually make a drama out of a not out/out decision. I like it. It is there to correct absolute howlers hence they each have 2 reviews every 80 overs. Realistically what is it to be used for in football? Every offside decision or just ones where a goal is the result? The odd corner or throw in where they get it wrong because everything happens in a split second? Who decides when it is used? The teams? If so what happens when there is a howler and they don't have a review? The referee refers it? I can't actually comment because I don't know what the system is and haven't seen it in use live.

I'm not against it but there is zero point comparing it with tennis, rugby, american football or cricket etc. Football has completely different dynamics and I'd have serious concerns this could be a killer for the entertainment. Everyone is different though, some people like the whole dramatising of a video review.

This is well argued, coherent, and I agree with every word.

Where is Pouchy and what have you done to him?
 
I refer back to my posts in this thread!

VAR and technology needs to **** off

It's a ****ing shambles. Yesterday, I can understand the ref not giving the pen. But nobody anywhere can understand VAR not giving it. For that reason - and how many examples have we had this season? - it needs to be ****ing binned.

Goal-line? Fine. Semi-automatic offsides? Absolutely. But absolutely nothing else, whatsoever.
 
There is absolutely nothing wrong with VA
the VA system picks up everything so is working

what is wrong, is the R part of the system and the interpretation of the Laws of the game.

Jarret Gillet on VAR last night has had 5, yes 5 previous errors whilst operating the system this season alone
This is not the system that is wrong it is a poxy Australian A league ref that comes to England to Study at University
who is allowed to be fast tracked through the pyramid reffing system in this country
 
There is absolutely nothing wrong with VA
the VA system picks up everything so is working

what is wrong, is the R part of the system and the interpretation of the Laws of the game.

Jarret Gillet on VAR last night has had 5, yes 5 previous errors whilst operating the system this season alone
This is not the system that is wrong it is a poxy Australian A league ref that comes to England to Study at University
who is allowed to be fast tracked through the pyramid reffing system in this country
What makes it worse is that the VAR ref has a qualified ref alongside them as assistant too yet between two qualified refs with all the tv angles they still get clear decisions wrong.
 
There is absolutely nothing wrong with VA
the VA system picks up everything so is working

what is wrong, is the R part of the system and the interpretation of the Laws of the game.

Jarret Gillet on VAR last night has had 5, yes 5 previous errors whilst operating the system this season alone
This is not the system that is wrong it is a poxy Australian A league ref that comes to England to Study at University
who is allowed to be fast tracked through the pyramid reffing system in this country

Really well put, I'm not sure how a VAR assistant can't see Amrabat step on Gordons heel - it's crazy - and then to not even send the ref to the screen to have a look at it just smacks of incompetence.
 
What makes it worse is that the VAR ref has a qualified ref alongside them as assistant too yet between two qualified refs with all the tv angles they still get clear decisions wrong.
and that is what's galling

The 4th Official last night was Keith Stroud remember him ??
he and his other 3 officials didn't know that a penalty had to be retaken following an encroachment in the box
 
They used VAR at the Euros. How many shocking VAR decisions were there?

The problem isn't VAR - it's the twats interpreting it in the Premier League

Not the Euros but I can think of one extreeeeeemely corrupt/dubious/incompetant/shocking decision that happened in gay Paree last November. The c*nts operating VAR are generally bent
 
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Match officials are mainly Incompetent AND some are definitely Corrupt. Gordon got it right though when he said "get better or get rid"
get better or get rid of the ex refs, so we don't have the scenario of jobs for the boys once they pass their sell by date

Webb, Atkinson, Moss and Dean still involved on who picks who for what game
 
I refer back to my posts in this thread!

VAR and technology needs to **** off
I still maintain that the technology works. It’s the fraudsters using it that don’t.

Do you honestly think it will get any better if it were gone.

All that will happen is more dodgy decisions will go against us.
 
The singularly worst piece of refereeing I have ever seen at any level.
it held the game up for 10 minutes while they consulted one another <laugh>

I was told (by my contact) that the 4th official that night had knowledge of the law but was only 90% sure - the others were clueless
that guy was Tony Harrington - now a premier league ref - you couldn't make it up
 
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I still maintain that the technology works. It’s the fraudsters using it that don’t.

Do you honestly think it will get any better if it were gone.

All that will happen is more dodgy decisions will go against us.
This has nothing to do with the decisions.
All enjoyment has been sucked out regardless of correct decision. How many times have you jumped in the air for a goal screaming your head off, ref is giving it and rightly or wrongly technology has been used and it’s been disallowed? or that wait to realise it is a goal.
**** all that. It’sa game between two sides of 11 people with 3 officiating on the pitch.
 
This has nothing to do with the decisions.
All enjoyment has been sucked out regardless of correct decision. How many times have you jumped in the air for a goal screaming your head off, ref is giving it and rightly or wrongly technology has been used and it’s been disallowed? or that wait to realise it is a goal.
**** all that. It’sa game between two sides of 11 people with 4 officiating on the pitch.
sorted <ok>

don't forget the eyes and ears on the touchline - 4th official
he also communicates with the ref
 
I think the conversation is a bit more nuanced than people are treating it.

Technology isn't the issue in my opinion, it's the useless idiots that run it. PGMOL are not up to standard, they don't do enough to communicate to the fans and the clubs about decisions and VAR is not transparent enough.

Instead of showing us an idiot playing around with a mouse looking for a pixel offside, have his microphone broadcast so he can explain what he is looking at and his decision.

The fear of micing up football referees is irrational and idiotic.
 
I think the conversation is a bit more nuanced than people are treating it.

Technology isn't the issue in my opinion, it's the useless idiots that run it. PGMOL are not up to standard, they don't do enough to communicate to the fans and the clubs about decisions and VAR is not transparent enough.

Instead of showing us an idiot playing around with a mouse looking for a pixel offside, have his microphone broadcast so he can explain what he is looking at and his decision.

The fear of micing up football referees is irrational and idiotic.
when you have ex refs who were not allowed to ref you because of their bias (Jonathon Moss ex Makem ref, now head of appointments)
being allowed to dictate which ref is doing your game shows there is no difference in the bias