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Your preaching to the converted about the size of the RL game to me. City's crowds are hampered by having two RL club's nearby, and theirs are by us. Look at the facts over the years, when our gates go up, theirs go down. Because both sports are competing for the same audience, sponsors, press coverage etc. Didn't you see the huge banners draped along the walkway to Argyle Street when we first reached the Premier League? Something on the lines of....'buy a pass for Hull FC, so much cheaper than Premier League football, etc etc' Have you forgot when Fc rebranded themselves as 'Hull's Premier Sporting Club' or when they dropped the RL from their name and simply called themselves Hull Football Club? Or when the HDM tried to pass off HKR as 'the Manchester United of RL'? or when, under Adam Pearson, Fc contacted all City's sponsors and tried to offer them a better deal if they switched to RL?
RL is a very minor sport these days nationally, but not in this city it isn't. Can you honestly read the local newspaper and listen to the local BBC radio station and then say that RL is not reported as 'a significant presence, where this niche game is massive,' in this area?
I know people who went to City in the posh seats (with lunch etc) who bought their season ticket through Hull FC instead of City because it was cheaper.
Could never understand that
 
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Leicester has a pretty big football and rugby club at the top of the game, both of which have excellent support.
Yeah, and I thought perhaps Exeter given its size is one after I posted but there are still very few places that have a Rugby team competing with its football neighbour for amount of trophies won at the top level, crowd size and noteriety.

As much as people might not like the sport surely its a good thing that Hull has 3 x decent teams representing the City.
 
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I know people who went to City in the posh seats (with lunch etc) who bought their season ticket through Hull FC instead of City because it was cheaper.
Could never understand that

I did that in the early days of the KC. You could buy a season pass for both teams & yes the same dual pass was very slightly cheaper via FC.

Only ever went to 1 or 2 FC games, just didn’t enjoy rugby league. ****ing hard men, huge big men, got to admire the hits they withstand!
 
No. I care about either rugby league club about as much as I care about Hull Stingrays.

I will leave it to you to list all 3 clubs average attendances since the dawn of time, the most recent full season is the most relevant to this discussion today though.
Is that the same season 'fans' were boycotting City because of the owners?
 
2022 Hull FC
Highest 16,999
Average 10,763

2022 Hull KR
Highest 10,300
Average 7788

2021-2022 Hull City
Highest 18,399
Average 12,888


City maybe the best supported club but rugby is the bigger sport in the city, fact. End of.

Unless we are in the prem, then suddenly people remember they support us. Rugby's top league being played in the city Vs footballs top league being played in the city and RL can't get close
 
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Is that the same season 'fans' were boycotting City because of the owners?

It was last season. Why don’t you do us all a favour and collate 100 years of average and peak attendances so we can make an informed decision? I’m genuinely intrigued. I expect the rugby clubs would still win out, possibly by all metrics over that timespan, but would be happy to be proven wrong. Last seasons attendances surprised me somewhat, I will admit. I thought KR typically got 3-4000 and FC not much more. Whatever pictures I have seen from either teams games over the last few years have had pretty deserted grounds.
 
It was last season. Why don’t you do us all a favour and collate 100 years of average and peak attendances so we can make an informed decision? I’m genuinely intrigued. I expect the rugby clubs would still win out, possibly by all metrics over that timespan, but would be happy to be proven wrong. Last seasons attendances surprised me somewhat, I will admit. I thought KR typically got 3-4000 and FC not much more. Whatever pictures I have seen from either teams games over the last few years have had pretty deserted grounds.
Do me a favour and and collate the twenty biggest crowds for a sporting occasion and the teams involved in Hull going back as far as you like. The only era RL in Hull got bigger crowds then Hull City was for a couple of seasons around 1980, which coincides with RL's best era in Hull ( all Hull final) and City's worst ever seasons, struggling in the old 4th division. Again underlining my point that as one clubs gates go up in one sport, the others go down. It's also not a level playing field as Howdentiger pointed out. RL, 12 clubs, all on the same salary cap, no relegation and win four games and you are in a Final at Wembley against football when we are competing again 91 other clubs and the top league comprising of the richest football clubs in the World. Fc and Rovers don't enter their Cup competition until the 6th rd FFS and they are competing against former pit towns along the M62.
 
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if no rugby league clubs existed here
perhaps thered be 5-7k average added onto citys attendances
who knows
 
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Do me a favour and and collate the twenty biggest crowds for a sporting occasion and the teams involved in Hull going back as far as you like. The only era RL in Hull got bigger crowds then Hull City was for a couple of seasons around 1980, which coincides with RL's best era in Hull ( all Hull final) and City's worst ever seasons, struggling in the old 4th division. Again underlining my point that as one clubs gates go up in one sport, the others go down. It's also not level playing field as Howdentiger pointed out. RL, 12 clubs, no relegation and win four games and you are in a Final at Wembley against football when we are competing again 91 other clubs and the top league comprising of the richest football clubs in the World. Fc and Rovers don't enter their Cup competition until the 6th rd FFS and they are competing against former pit towns along the M62.

Naturally, but that doesn’t make them any more our rival than it makes Flamingo Land, who are also competing for peoples custom on a Saturday afternoon. I would hazard a strong guess that the vast majority supporting either club are big in to one sport and don’t really care much about the other. I do not think there would be a linear line between increasing and decreasing crowds or popularity.

And I agree 100% that RL is a silly pointless sport, whyever they don’t just man up and merge with the Union I have no idea but it is what it is. I’m sure fans of both codes would froth at the mouth at the thought and have a million reasons that are logical to them but to me it just seems ridiculous to have what could be such a major and more interesting sport split in 2.
 
Naturally, but that doesn’t make them any more our rival than it makes Flamingo Land, who are also competing for peoples custom on a Saturday afternoon. I would hazard a strong guess that the vast majority supporting either club are big in to one sport and don’t really care much about the other. I do not think there would be a linear line between increasing and decreasing crowds or popularity.

And I agree 100% that RL is a silly pointless sport, whyever they don’t just man up and merge with the Union I have no idea but it is what it is. I’m sure fans of both codes would froth at the mouth at the thought and have a million reasons that are logical to them but to me it just seems ridiculous to have what could be such a major and more interesting sport split in 2.
Or just scrap RL altogether and keep the far more globally popular and tactically and physically superior code
 
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Or just scrap RL altogether and keep the far more globally popular and tactically and physically superior code
Physically superior code? Ha ha.
I remember when my mate left a League club as Head of Performance and went to Ulster for a similar role.

First session he took in pre-season he set them off doing some running. About 20 minutes light stuff like californias. When they stopped for water ahead of the session some of the players were coming over to him thanking him for the 'hardest session they've ever had' thinking that the warm up was a full session!!
He was blown away by the state of the fitness levels in Union and how weak the players were in the gym. I had a coffee with a league coach who was working for Eddie Jones the morning of the Barbarians game last year. He told me similar. The game is not bad to watch but comparing them physically is mental.

West Wales tried signing Union players to play league, they got beat by near on 70 every week. The games are very different. We had a kid at the Broncos from London Scottish, he was a unit but went back to Scottish for less money as it was easier.
 
Naturally, but that doesn’t make them any more our rival than it makes Flamingo Land, who are also competing for peoples custom on a Saturday afternoon. I would hazard a strong guess that the vast majority supporting either club are big in to one sport and don’t really care much about the other. I do not think there would be a linear line between increasing and decreasing crowds or popularity.

And I agree 100% that RL is a silly pointless sport, whyever they don’t just man up and merge with the Union I have no idea but it is what it is. I’m sure fans of both codes would froth at the mouth at the thought and have a million reasons that are logical to them but to me it just seems ridiculous to have what could be such a major and more interesting sport split in 2.
Flamingo Land is not in Hull nor does it's enterprise share a stadium, but not the costs, with us. Bit of a silly pointless comparison. .