We could also use the Castro method whereby we count how many articles are on page 1 of the sport tab in the HDM to decide which club and sport is the better supported.
I know people who went to City in the posh seats (with lunch etc) who bought their season ticket through Hull FC instead of City because it was cheaper.Your preaching to the converted about the size of the RL game to me. City's crowds are hampered by having two RL club's nearby, and theirs are by us. Look at the facts over the years, when our gates go up, theirs go down. Because both sports are competing for the same audience, sponsors, press coverage etc. Didn't you see the huge banners draped along the walkway to Argyle Street when we first reached the Premier League? Something on the lines of....'buy a pass for Hull FC, so much cheaper than Premier League football, etc etc' Have you forgot when Fc rebranded themselves as 'Hull's Premier Sporting Club' or when they dropped the RL from their name and simply called themselves Hull Football Club? Or when the HDM tried to pass off HKR as 'the Manchester United of RL'? or when, under Adam Pearson, Fc contacted all City's sponsors and tried to offer them a better deal if they switched to RL?
RL is a very minor sport these days nationally, but not in this city it isn't. Can you honestly read the local newspaper and listen to the local BBC radio station and then say that RL is not reported as 'a significant presence, where this niche game is massive,' in this area?
Yeah, and I thought perhaps Exeter given its size is one after I posted but there are still very few places that have a Rugby team competing with its football neighbour for amount of trophies won at the top level, crowd size and noteriety.Leicester has a pretty big football and rugby club at the top of the game, both of which have excellent support.
I know people who went to City in the posh seats (with lunch etc) who bought their season ticket through Hull FC instead of City because it was cheaper.
Could never understand that
Same as folk who buy senior tickets when they're not. Tightarses wherever you look.I know people who went to City in the posh seats (with lunch etc) who bought their season ticket through Hull FC instead of City because it was cheaper.
Could never understand that
There are also a few on here who claim to be supporters of Hull City.You might not have met them but there are at least a few on here. It appears that Hull FC have lived totally rent free in the brain of a couple of posters on here for years. It’s quite sad, monotonous and boring really.
Is that the same season 'fans' were boycotting City because of the owners?No. I care about either rugby league club about as much as I care about Hull Stingrays.
I will leave it to you to list all 3 clubs average attendances since the dawn of time, the most recent full season is the most relevant to this discussion today though.
2022 Hull FC
Highest 16,999
Average 10,763
2022 Hull KR
Highest 10,300
Average 7788
2021-2022 Hull City
Highest 18,399
Average 12,888
City maybe the best supported club but rugby is the bigger sport in the city, fact. End of.
Is that the same season 'fans' were boycotting City because of the owners?
Do me a favour and and collate the twenty biggest crowds for a sporting occasion and the teams involved in Hull going back as far as you like. The only era RL in Hull got bigger crowds then Hull City was for a couple of seasons around 1980, which coincides with RL's best era in Hull ( all Hull final) and City's worst ever seasons, struggling in the old 4th division. Again underlining my point that as one clubs gates go up in one sport, the others go down. It's also not a level playing field as Howdentiger pointed out. RL, 12 clubs, all on the same salary cap, no relegation and win four games and you are in a Final at Wembley against football when we are competing again 91 other clubs and the top league comprising of the richest football clubs in the World. Fc and Rovers don't enter their Cup competition until the 6th rd FFS and they are competing against former pit towns along the M62.It was last season. Why don’t you do us all a favour and collate 100 years of average and peak attendances so we can make an informed decision? I’m genuinely intrigued. I expect the rugby clubs would still win out, possibly by all metrics over that timespan, but would be happy to be proven wrong. Last seasons attendances surprised me somewhat, I will admit. I thought KR typically got 3-4000 and FC not much more. Whatever pictures I have seen from either teams games over the last few years have had pretty deserted grounds.
Do me a favour and and collate the twenty biggest crowds for a sporting occasion and the teams involved in Hull going back as far as you like. The only era RL in Hull got bigger crowds then Hull City was for a couple of seasons around 1980, which coincides with RL's best era in Hull ( all Hull final) and City's worst ever seasons, struggling in the old 4th division. Again underlining my point that as one clubs gates go up in one sport, the others go down. It's also not level playing field as Howdentiger pointed out. RL, 12 clubs, no relegation and win four games and you are in a Final at Wembley against football when we are competing again 91 other clubs and the top league comprising of the richest football clubs in the World. Fc and Rovers don't enter their Cup competition until the 6th rd FFS and they are competing against former pit towns along the M62.
Or just scrap RL altogether and keep the far more globally popular and tactically and physically superior codeNaturally, but that doesn’t make them any more our rival than it makes Flamingo Land, who are also competing for peoples custom on a Saturday afternoon. I would hazard a strong guess that the vast majority supporting either club are big in to one sport and don’t really care much about the other. I do not think there would be a linear line between increasing and decreasing crowds or popularity.
And I agree 100% that RL is a silly pointless sport, whyever they don’t just man up and merge with the Union I have no idea but it is what it is. I’m sure fans of both codes would froth at the mouth at the thought and have a million reasons that are logical to them but to me it just seems ridiculous to have what could be such a major and more interesting sport split in 2.
Or just scrap RL altogether and keep the far more globally popular and tactically and physically superior code
Physically superior code? Ha ha.Or just scrap RL altogether and keep the far more globally popular and tactically and physically superior code
Flamingo Land is not in Hull nor does it's enterprise share a stadium, but not the costs, with us. Bit of a silly pointless comparison. .Naturally, but that doesn’t make them any more our rival than it makes Flamingo Land, who are also competing for peoples custom on a Saturday afternoon. I would hazard a strong guess that the vast majority supporting either club are big in to one sport and don’t really care much about the other. I do not think there would be a linear line between increasing and decreasing crowds or popularity.
And I agree 100% that RL is a silly pointless sport, whyever they don’t just man up and merge with the Union I have no idea but it is what it is. I’m sure fans of both codes would froth at the mouth at the thought and have a million reasons that are logical to them but to me it just seems ridiculous to have what could be such a major and more interesting sport split in 2.
Flamingo Land is not in Hull nor does it's enterprise share a stadium, but not the costs, with us. Bit of a silly pointless comparison. .