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  1. Prince Knut

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    Beautiful, isn't it? Means more to me than any religious or political statement that was ever written. Unarguable and breathtakingly frank - this is it: make the most of it and the other inhabitants you share it with.

    Except for Mancs. :emoticon-0131-angel
     
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    Always think this image from Voyager of Earth does that quote justice...

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    It was good, but not sure I would entirely agree with the writers thoughts. A pale blue dot and very small stage, gives us some sort of significance - to which I would disagree. We are nothing, and until we can travel time, then eventually that cosmic will consume us, and leave no history/evidence we ever existed. Maybe that is billions of years away, but it will happen nonetheless, unless we can leave a foot print many light years from here.
     
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    Yes, we are 'nothing' - except to the others we share this almost indescribably minuscule portion on now and reality with. All energy was produced in the creation, the Big Bang. All we are, is a particular coalescence of those particles in this moment. In terms of our place in the big picture, we are as insignificant as it gets. But to all other living beings, we are something and so are they. And what was once 'you' will be something else in this universe when you've gone. and the only footprint left is the memories of you by others.

    As Bill Hicks was wont to say, enjoy the ride, it isn't for long.
     
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    There will eventually (in billions of years) be no memories, no footprint. There will be nothing. Our creation can only ever be a theory. We look into space, we can see places, we can never reach, we see nothing looking back (with our current capabilities). It's like an ant trying to understand the existence of a human, it only understands the part that affects it's existence, what don't we as humans see, what don't we know, who is studying us, in the same way that we study microorganisms. The truth is out there, but I doubt we can even imagine it. Where's Mulder and Scully when you bloody well need them!
     
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    Yes its head twisting and the main reason I believe that aliens and UFOs coming anywhere near the Earth is pure fantasy .
    The distance is mind boggling
     
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    How old is Earth, it is 4.45 billions years.
    How old is the Universe, it is 13.8 billions years.
    How old is the Oldest planet, it is 12.7 billions years.

    So considering our planet is quite young in terms of measurements on the next two listed above, I think it has to be highly likely that life will be out there. If there was human life, and we weren't just a freak of nature, then that life surely is likely to be more advance than us, and if they still can't travel to us, then we are less likely on the law of averages to find a solution to closing the gap. Considering the huge gap between the age of our planet and the oldest planet, it is unlikely we will ever be able to do so......unless of course, we are that freak of nature, then there is nothing measurable to go by.

    As you state, head twisiting and mind boggling.
     
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    In the universe originally there was only hydrogen, to become the other elements it has to fuse in a sun, which then had to go supernova to release them. To become the heavier metals though, it's had to go through a few supernovas first. for a sun to be born, die, and then reform and die again a few times will take as bit of time. So it could conceivably be that there simply hasn't been the environment in the universe to support life until comparatively recently.
     
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    Within the dimensions we experience, yes.
     
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    To paraphrase Spock, life as we know it.
     
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    According to the Drake equation, life is almost inevitable, even maybe in our solar system. Whether we can recognise it and communicate with it is another thing.
     
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    Yes, I think death is the only way <ok>

    I reckon as celestial beings we can travel all over the universe and meet others. It'll be great fun just wait.

    After you?
     
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    Does the exploration and new discoveries of the universe, destroy the beliefs and theories of religion?
     
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    My comment was just a joke with perhaps some element of Faith to it.

    But in all seriousness to answer the question - not for me, I've always seen all science as explaining the how, not the why.
     
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    Is there a why ?

    Beyond what we as humans attribute to it all.
     
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    Yes! Well if you're a person of faith you probably believe there is.

    Beyond this life there could be nothing or there could be another dimension we cannot begin to understand.
     
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    Copied from google:

    Adam and Eve were the first humans, according to the Jewish, Islamic, and Christian religions, and all humans have descended from them. As stated in the Bible, Adam and Eve were created by God to take care of His creation, to populate the earth, and to have a relationship with Him.

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    So this is a fake of science then...

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    Yes <whistle>

    Except for @Sucky, who's going in reverse.
     
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