Maddison

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  1. ForestHillBilly

    ForestHillBilly Well-Known Member

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    The last I read about him he wanted to become a tattoo artist. I don't see any future for him at Charlton. Bringing him into the squad would cause problems at a time when the team spirit is better than it's been all season.
     
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    Clearly it's not the profession for him. Most people knew somebody at school who had the talent but not the desire to be a professional footballer.
     
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    Quit football then. See who cares.

    It shouldn't take the bloke long to realise that the real world and the world of football have one thing in common;
    They don't revolve around him.

    All this tosh about him scoring our best goal of the season only feeds his delusion that he is the greatest thing that ever happened, and that there's something wrong with the whole of creation if it isn't making him happy.

    This bloke is worse than Tony Watt. And that's saying something.
     
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    I think Maddison could do with some help. There was a time in my life when I gave up on everything, work, Family, hobbies etc. I didn't know how depressed I was until I went to a therapist and talked to her. The weekly sessions I had with her over a period really helped and it enabled me to get back on track. Marcus Maddison sounds depressed and he probably needs help. What doesn't help for somebody depressed is people saying you have got a good job you should be happy. I had a good job, great Family and I couldn't eat or sleep.
    I hope Maddison gets the help he needs.
     
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    Didn't we have a goalie 5 or 6 years ago who had to stop playing because he was suffering from depression? I can't remember his name and he didn't get many first-team opportunities, but he got nothing but support and sympathy from staff and fans. Madison has to show the same sort of humility if he is to get the same response, but it may be that he has to get out of the public eye anyway to get himself sorted, in which case we won't be seeing him again, not for a while anyway.
     
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    I think you mean John Sullivan (?) although I believe Ben Alnwick also had some problems, but can't remember if that was depression related. John Sullivan certainly was. Maddison certainly seems to be showing some signs of having depression and DP is right, the last thing he would need is people telling him he's well off and has nothing to complain about. It's far more complicated than that. I would assume help is available in professional football now, but as with all these things the player himself needs to acknowledge that he needs that help and be willing to accept it.

    Hopefully that will be the case with MM and now that we are owned by a decent owner again, you would think that help would be forthcoming from the club. I believe we still remain his employer and us such we should be offering to help. The question is, does he want that help ?
     
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    It was Ikeme, we had on loan from Wolves
     
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    I think Ikeme sadly had Leukaemia but I believe he beat it. John Sullivan suffered depression but again with the right help he overcame it.

    Maddison needs to seek help and be given it. He has a family. There are more important things in life than football.
     
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    Yes it was Sullivan.
     
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    I'm pretty sure a lot of nurses and doctors and hospital workers have considered walking away from their profession after what they've been through in the last 13 months. But I think the majority of them will probably find a way to carry on, even if it is to the detriment of their own personal wellbeing.

    Forgive me for not overflowing with sympathy for footballers who have been feeling the strain in these difficult times.
     
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    You sound like Royston, whose opinion on this bloke's mental health issues was "No Sympathy"
     
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    Bit harsh Lardi. I think there’s a big difference between feeling the strain and having clinical depression. I’m by no means a leftie woke, but depression can be all consuming.

    I don’t think any of us really know enough about MM’s personal life or his medical condition to be in a position to judge. Apart from his comments on Facebook or Twitter or wherever it was, you only have to look at his body language and reaction to his worldy for us to see that he gains no joy from doing something which for most people would provoke a huge positive response.
     
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    My sympathy for the mental health strain that other people are under has a maximum end and a minimum end.

    At the maximum end is that poor nurse who broke down in tears begging panic buyers not to leave her unable to buy basic shopping after a long shift treating desperately ill Covid patients.

    At the minimum end is Meghan Markle.

    I make no bones about saying right now, that in my view Marcus Maddison is closer to the Meghan Markle end of my sympathy spectrum than he is to the exhausted nurse end.


    Also for the record;
    I never said I have no sympathy for Maddison. I simply don't seem to have as much as most other members here.
    That's my opinion, and I would like to think it is respected as such - just as I respect the opinions of those members who disagree with me.
    And as for me sounding like Royston - there is somebody else currently posting on this forum who is in a better position to answer that than I am <whistle>
     
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    I agree 100% with your parameters for sympathy Lardi. The nurse at the top and MM (the spoilt American actress version) definitely at the bottom.

    I guess it's just a question as to where we each place MM (the gifted, yet troubled footballer version) within those boundaries.

    As I've said already in my brief time on here, one of the main attractions of this site is the fact that everyone seems to be able to post their opinions without bile and abuse from others who have different ones. I hope my opinions on Maddison haven't offended anyone and I hope I can always argue my case without disrespecting others who don't agree.

    Are you saying we have a Royston clone then ?
     
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    Definitely something amiss with the reactions after his two goals for us
     
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    No offence taken.

    It's all about opinions and we can usually express our differing ones here without things getting too tetchy.
    Granted things went a bit too far with Br***t, but that's water under the bridge no I hope.

    Back on MM, there was something amiss with his entire time at CAFC.
    The stats show that clearly enough.
    I have nothing really to add to my opinion of him as obviously I don't know the guy, so I'll not comment again myself - unless his story develops in a way that merits a fresh view.
     
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  20. ForestHillBilly

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    All sorts of people suffer depression, the good the bad and the ugly. I have a friend who is in the advanced stages of muscular dystrophy, and he's never complained once, not even to his wife.
     
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