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Libya Right or Wrong!

Discussion in 'Watford' started by Norwayhornet, Mar 23, 2011.

  1. hornethologist a.k.a. theo

    hornethologist a.k.a. theo Well-Known Member

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    We seem to be willing to fight over cod and oil. A good job we maintain friendly relations with India and Sri Lanka...any threat to our tea supplies would call for all out invasion I think.
     
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  2. oldfrenchhorn

    oldfrenchhorn Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    There were major complaints here last year when the government raised the tax on a bottle of wine from 3 cents to 5 cents.

    If the UK ever decided to invade us I am sure that it would be to get their hands on the wine so that they could tax it at normal UK tax rates.

    I would foresee that the natives and quite a few ex-pats would fight them in the vineyards as well as the beaches. ;)
     
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  3. Leo

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    Sacre bleu - is nothing safe?
     
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  4. yorkshirehornet

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    oui weel fiit zem on zee beeches
     
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  5. yorkshirehornet

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    The US defence department says the military intervention in Libya has cost about $550m so far. Sixty percent has gone on bombs and missiles. Pentagon spokeswoman Navy Cmdr Kathleen Kesler said the figure represented only the added cost to the department, beyond what it would have spent deploying the troops and ships elsewhere

    OMG .
     
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  6. oldfrenchhorn

    oldfrenchhorn Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Listened to the Prime Minister of Qatar this evening who described the problem as an Arab one, but after discussions between the nations in the region came to the conclusion that they were not strong enough to take on Gadaffi. It was a decision by them after talks with others to go to the UN. It did throw a different light on how and why the west became involved.
     
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  7. yorkshirehornet

    yorkshirehornet Well-Known Member

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    More unity on this in the arab world..... always spectacturarly disunited.. and then NATO etc does the dirty work...
    but dont get me talking about Israel
     
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  8. aberdeenhornet

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    You gotta love the gulf arabs!!!! Buy tons of arms at inflated prices through corrupt contracts. The usual arab disease of buy the equipment but dont buy the training means they havent a clue how to use what they have effectively. Israel is a real world player in terms of fighting wars, personally I hate their attitude and hate the fact one of them will be owning our club soon. The oppression of the palestinians warrants intervention but who will do it? Is it any wonder that terrorism is a problem with the double standards we adopt? I think not.
     
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  9. oldfrenchhorn

    oldfrenchhorn Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I used to sell equipment that was used in Iran by the oil industry. It would be ordered, crated and shipped in plenty of time for any delays in transit. Once it arrived it was placed in a compound that I was told was approx. 1/2 mile long x 1/4 mile wide.

    A few weeks later I would receive a frantic phone call to see how quickly I could send a repeat order as it had been put in the compound but no one could find it. The repeat materials were once again crated, but this time air freighted at enormous cost due to the size and weight.
     
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  10. Leo

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    This is an interesting thread - it would not have been remotely possible on 606 - some comments border on racism - the whole topic would clearly be "off topic" to Beeb eyes - yet we are having a civilised discussion that no-one is objecting to and which usefully shares ideas. Love it
     
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  11. aberdeenhornet

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    I could be considered racist, sexist or bigoted in some quarters but..... I believe there are differences in our societies which lead to differences albeit temporary if necessary between the races and each has positives and negatives to bring to the table. I refer frequently to arab societies treatment and care for family values and the elderly as being vastly superior and shaming our own, its a society thing. The true respect for women held within some arab quarters again eclipses our own society which seems to be trending to a boring everybody equal status, we're not haemaphrodite drones...... We haven't got our back yard in perfect order and could use a bit of humility to learn from other cultures as well as teach, maybe in another 2000 years we'll be there but I guess I will not!! Going back up the thread a bit diverting the focus from killing to colonisation of another planet would be the way I would encourage the human race to go as its a fact this planet cannot sustain growth rates so the real problem (without war as a form of population control along with famine and natural diasasters) will be water supply for the human race and very soon, indeed before oil runs out.
     
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  12. harrowhorn

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    My tuppence worth on this, especially the point regarding Zimbabwe and Tibet. We specifically, should have intervened in Zimbabwe, and the world should have intervened in Tibet. However, and here's the rub, we are not strong enough to intervene on our own and we would never get UN sanction because Russia, and more specifically China, would always veto. As in Bosnia, this is one of the rare occasions where there is some sort of international concensus, and we are doing the right thing.

    As Aberdeen points out, the status quo is to the benefit of the oil trade; much easier to turn a blind eye than get involved and see oil disrupted.
     
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  13. Leo

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    Good points harrow
     
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  14. Bring Back Wooter

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    I can't really understand why we would get involved in the Libya crisis if it is because of oil. It has been reported that Libya produces 3% of the worlds oil. 3% is worth a hell of a lot of money, but is it worth it?!

    It has also been stated that since things "kicked off" in Libya, the price of oil has risen dramatically. But why is this if they only account for 3% of world oil?

    Is it just the knock-on effect that this crisis will have on rest of the oil production? I tend to keep a bit of a distance from politics issues, and am not involved in the oil industry to really be able to construct a decent point. But, from a layman's point of view, something is amiss.

    aberdude - What do you mean when you say "the twin towers was a scam!! the london bombs were a scam!!"?
     
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  15. Norwayhornet

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    Mrs Norway agrees <laugh>
     
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  16. Leo

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    BBW - Libya may only be 3% of world produciton but it is always the "margin" that creates the big differences - also BP are a massive investment in Liibya and if Gaddafi remains you can kiss goodbye to that investment -let's face it the Scots let the Lockerbie bomber go to "appease" Gaddafi.

    Aberdude - please keep your foul language and strange views to your own board as you will not find a welcome here
     
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  17. Norwayhornet

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    BBW any excuse to generate a bit more profit!! simples then people protest and it comes down a little, the next crisis happens fuel goes up lots, people protest it comes down a little, you get the trend (or am I being overly cynical again):)
     
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  18. Norwayhornet

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    I believe we have found ...........a.............wum........ Well Done Aber for finding your way here!
     
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  19. oldfrenchhorn

    oldfrenchhorn Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Aberdude:

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    Says it all really.<laugh>
     
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  20. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Well-Known Member

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    Dont know pal what did you post ? I didnt see it as been at work today sorry! I`m more than willing to listen to your views of the Libya action ,indeed your opinion of the middle east region might prove insightful!!<ok>
     
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