Transfer Rumours Let's ignore the big ****ing elephant and blame the latest manager, again. Are we nearly there yet?

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glazerfodder said:
We could be offering staged payments up to the total fee - FIFA have agreed that transfer fees can be paid over a maximum of five years, regardless of the length of the players contract (this in response the the Chavs playing fast and loose with FFP). we could offer £10m now and the balance in full once the sale (or no sale) is resolved. If we offer the same deferred terms for other players we can afford several signings. Don't imagine for a minute that whoever manages to prise Kane from Spurs will be paying his full fee in one lump, the market doesn't work like that.
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That is besides the point though. Whether you paid for the car over five years or in lump sum is immaterial to the cost of the car.

To your point though regarding transfers rules, FIFA is trying to get club into using hybrid financing model whereby cost is incrementally capitalized. If we end up paying something like £50m/year for total staggered transfers, we are effectively diminishing our future spending power. Overall, this demonstrates the troubles that lie ahead for football with insane unsustainable spending. It’s becoming the housing market whereby the ruling body changes the rule to keep the charade going.
 
cytrax said:
Your post contradicts the point that you think you’re actually making on cost basis. Allegedly, Atalanta is holding out for £50m in total cost. Is that really how a broke club spends money? A player that literally just had one season under his belt and ten goals. How the fk is he any better than any of the younger kids that we have? This is my point! It isn’t about moaning.

If you’re going to spend that much money, at least spend it on established players. Nothing against the kid, I just think any sign of a deal should be no more than £25-30m.

Again, this is obviously theoretical as we don’t know for sure if there has been any bids.
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What you think is irrelevant mate.

There is no way on this earth are we finding a striker of the required quality, any age, for £25 million, sorry.

There is a premium and all clubs have to pay it, that's the current market.
 
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Anyway, Sofyan Amrabat has apparently agreed terms.

Apparently, don't shoot the messenger! Multiple sources saying so.

Excellent player. Excellent for Morocco in the world cup and excellent for Fiorentina on the way to ECL final, and in the final.

Sign him, get rid of McTominay and also Fred could then leave.

Then it's negotiate the price for Hjoland.

(it won't be £25million)
 
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cytrax said:
That is besides the point though. Whether you paid for the car over five years or in lump sum is immaterial to the cost of the car.

To your point though regarding transfers rules, FIFA is trying to get club into using hybrid financing model whereby cost is incrementally capitalized. If we end up paying something like £50m/year for total staggered transfers, we are effectively diminishing our future spending power. Overall, this demonstrates the troubles that lie ahead for football with insane unsustainable spending. It’s becoming the housing market whereby the ruling body changes the rule to keep the charade going.
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If the Qatari bid succeeds, the injection of revenue from new 'sponsorships' will be almost immediate, huge sums will flow inwards from the sheik and his money makers, foundations and trusts will be established, revenue streams will be optimised and we will never want for transfer fees again. City part two, so setting aside £100m per annum against staged fees will be peanuts.
 
glazerfodder said:
We could be offering staged payments up to the total fee - FIFA have agreed that transfer fees can be paid over a maximum of five years, regardless of the length of the players contract (this in response the the Chavs playing fast and loose with FFP). we could offer £10m now and the balance in full once the sale (or no sale) is resolved. If we offer the same deferred terms for other players we can afford several signings. Don't imagine for a minute that whoever manages to prise Kane from Spurs will be paying his full fee in one lump, the market doesn't work like that.
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The ruling was by Uefa not Fifa and was solely to do with amortisation which is how the transfer fee (and wages) are recorded in accounts and for FFP purposes ratherthan any agreement between clubs on how a transfer fee payment is staged .
 
I said earlier I don't think we've made a bid for Hojlund.

We've not made a bid for Amrabat either. Not yet anyway.
 
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Treble said:
I said earlier I don't think we've made a bid for Hojlund.

We've not made a bid for Amrabat either. Not yet anyway.
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I am kind of hoping we have made bids for players nobody has linked us to and are quietly getting deals done.


Ahhh, my heart aches for those days but i fear they are gone.
 
Diego said:
I am kind of hoping we have made bids for players nobody has linked us to and are quietly getting deals done.


Ahhh, my heart aches for those days but i fear they are gone.
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I don't think that's possible anymore mate.

Maybe possibly on approaches to club, but I think for a club like ours even that's virtually impossible nowadays.

What happens with us is quite the opposite as you know - we have to find the needle in the haystack of ****e posted about everyone we're linked with. That's really the problem we have! Social media has made it considerably worse. I just ignore the tabloids as they're probably the last to know.
 
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It’s in the selling clubs’ interest for any potential bid to be widely publicised. That way, rival bidding pushes up the price. The player and his agent too want huge publicity as wages will inevitably go up too. No one wants to keep it discrete except for the buying club.
 
Chief said:
What you think is irrelevant mate.

There is no way on this earth are we finding a striker of the required quality, any age, for £25 million, sorry.

There is a premium and all clubs have to pay it, that's the current market.
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He’s twenty fkin years old with one year in the Italian league and ten goals. Where is the premium in that equation? It used to be that such transfers are called one for the future. Not a £50m premium nonsense.

Either way, it’s a speculation. Let’s not turn it into a premium spectacle.
 
How stupid can the club’s execs be?

Alessia Russo one of Utd’s and the league’s best women players moves from Utd to Arsenal on a free transfer. Yet in January Utd turned down a WORLD RECORD fee from …Arsenal for her. She was on the last 6 months of her contract and Utd refused to sell her but did absolutely nothing to renew her contract. Now Arsenal got for free someone they were prepared to spend a huge amount on.

I am not a follower of women’s footie but the sheer incompetence of Utd’s executive management has no limits.
 
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Christiansmith said:
How stupid can the club’s execs be?

Alessia Russo one of Utd’s and the league’s best women players moves from Utd to Arsenal on a free transfer. Yet in January Utd turned down a WORLD RECORD fee from …Arsenal for her. She was on the last 6 months of her contract and Utd refused to sell her but did absolutely nothing to renew her contract. Now Arsenal got for free someone they were prepared to spend a huge amount on.

I am not a follower of women’s footie but the sheer incompetence of Utd’s executive management has no limits.
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I think at the time they believed United had a very good chance of going on to win the league so I can understand why they wouldn't sell her.

That doesn't excuse the fact they didn't do anything to renew her contract. Have we just got a bunch of buffoons running the club?
 
Treble said:
I think at the time they believed United had a very good chance of going on to win the league so I can understand why they wouldn't sell her.

That doesn't excuse the fact they didn't do anything to renew her contract. Have we just got a bunch of buffoons running the club?
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It's easy to slate the board at the minute, I believe that was their reasoning. If you can win the league with her goals, why would you sell her with half the season to go? And if they decided to keep her, it doesn't mean that they had any powers in making her sign a new deal.
 
Christiansmith said:
How stupid can the club’s execs be?

Alessia Russo one of Utd’s and the league’s best women players moves from Utd to Arsenal on a free transfer. Yet in January Utd turned down a WORLD RECORD fee from …Arsenal for her. She was on the last 6 months of her contract and Utd refused to sell her but did absolutely nothing to renew her contract. Now Arsenal got for free someone they were prepared to spend a huge amount on.

I am not a follower of women’s footie but the sheer incompetence of Utd’s executive management has no limits.
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Are they the same crew as the mens team?
 
Mount given the 7 shirt - don't think Garnacho will be best pleased, some of his latest social media guff suggested he was hoping to get it. Hopefully there won't be any tantrums over it.
 
It's a ****ing shirt number.

They ****ed up the idea it is iconic when they gave it Valencia, Owen and Sanchez.

Who cares? Garnacho certainly shoudn't.
 
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I think that the implication is that Garnacho wants to be a starter and having number 7 shirt or any of the first team number from the manager would show that commitment.
 
glazerfodder said:
He wanted it so badly.... the dwarfs less so

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Well, he’s stupid for flashing a number that he doesn’t outrightly wear. Wanting it so badly doesn’t mean that he is entitled to it.
 
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