Kevin Kyle

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Billy Cattermole said:
Oh stop ****ing moralising you blank firing twat. <ok>
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I've said my bit on the matter. If you disagree that he should have been helped then fair enough. Surprises me as you seem the sort who'd do best by his kids with what he has, whether that's a little or a lot.

How exactly am I blank firing? Twat I'll happily accept.
 
A Northern Soul Disco said:
I've said my bit on the matter. If you disagree that he should have been helped then fair enough. Surprises me as you seem the sort who'd do best by his kids with what he has, whether that's a little or a lot.

How exactly am I blank firing? Twat I'll happily accept.
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I think you've missed the point. He didn't choose to be a gambling addict.
 
WearsidePride said:
I think you've missed the point. He didn't choose to be a gambling addict.
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No but he chose to gamble. It doesn't take a genius to know that gambling regularly can lead to addiction. Especially if it's a lot of money you're throwing around.

I'd just hope in the future someone in that position is encouraged to invest sensibly. Counselled through the dangers of gambling prior to it being a problem or given help when it has become a problem.

It's far too common and occurrence and they need help/education.
 
WearsidePride said:
I think you've missed the point. He didn't choose to be a gambling addict.
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Nor was it forced upon him.

When weighed up, he chose it more than it chose him really. In fairness, Disco's main point has been overlooked, the player was fundamentally failed by an organisation who are there to protect the interest of their clients (the players), and as a result of that AND his own mistakes, he's come a cropper and ended up on that ship. If he's stopped gambling, he'll be in a better place on that ship than he ever was as a footballer.
 
Gustavo's Gonads said:
Disco's point that the PFA should be on hand with help for players in their younger years is cast iron.

What exactly do the PFA do? I often wonder.
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They deliberate on who the best player is for 364 days a year then in the end they just give the award to Scott Parker.
 
The job of the PFA is to provide our chum Gordon Taylor with a vast salary and enormous pension fund whilst doing **** all.

Didn't you know?
 
WearsidePride said:
Gotta agree with Billy. You don't know the lads circumstances, he wouldn't of been very old when he was on that wage and obviously got into something he couldn't get out of. I don't think it's fair for you to blast him, he probably knows he's done wrong. Not like he's making a deal out of cleaning toilets, it's just the paper has picked up on it. It would be easy for the lad not to work and sulk about the money he's lost.
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Surely that sentence there highlights why clubs should be doing more?





All disco said is that they should be more support and that fluttering his earnings away was idiotic. I know plenty of recovering addicts and I'd bet that if Kevin Kyle was here he would acknowledge what he did was idiotic, regardless of the circumstances. That's what recovering addicts need to do to even stand a chance of kicking their habits, acknowledge their mistakes. Think you're being a tad harsh Billy fella.
 
I was just gonna say the "New Quinn" tag never did him any favours as he was a limited battering ram of a player. Also, I have never seen a professional player with such poor judgment and timing when jumping to head the ball! Half the time he was halfway up or halfway down when the ball reached his head! Spamming off the top of his head or his shoulder.

I'd have ended up dead from booze and birds earning we he did at that age! Each their own.
 
A Northern Soul Disco said:
I've said my bit on the matter. If you disagree that he should have been helped then fair enough. Surprises me as you seem the sort who'd do best by his kids with what he has, whether that's a little or a lot.

How exactly am I blank firing? Twat I'll happily accept.
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Sorry marra, just caught me in a bad mood.
Apologies for being a twat. :emoticon-0150-hands
 
I have someone very close to my heart who suffers from a serious gambling addiction which has resulted in massive repercussions within my family. It is most certainly a very dangerous addiction which is just as hard for an addict to stop than it is for a drug addict..I sincerely hope that Kyle has managed to conquer his demons so it will give him and his family a chance of happiness..
 
A Northern Soul Disco said:
No but he chose to gamble. It doesn't take a genius to know that gambling regularly can lead to addiction....
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Haway mate, that's like saying a pint can lead to alcoholism.

Totally agree about educating these kids though. They're given a **** load of money then left alone for hours upon end during the week. Clubs take no responsibility for their charges, (many of them young lads away from home and on their own), when they drive out the stadium grounds and then throw their hands up in horror when things go tits up and stories leak out in the press.
 
Not saying one pint or bet an addict makes. More doing it heavily, regularly you're opening yourself up to the dangers of it.

It's true. It's not just the PFA. We sent him off with all of these problems and can't imagine we gave him much guidance.
 
Billy Cattermole said:
I really am sorry Disc.
Just ****ing things going through my head man.
Sorry, didn't mean owt.
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Honestly mate, you're sound. I'm having a hard time with one or two things at the moment too and I'm probably subconsciously asking for a bit of grief or at times looking for it too.

No apology needed. Put two bad tempered old goats too close together and they're going to clatter heeds.
 
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