Karthikeyan gets a penalty

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Who's fault was it?


  • Total voters
    18
  • Poll closed .
Getting back on topic, has anyone invoked Godwin's law yet? I hate to be the first one, but the Big Lie has rarely seemed more relevant.
 
Deal. May as well anounce it now, when the mods do a cleanup tomorrow, i can hardly see posts about eating pie surviving. Right, been a pleasure to chat, i shall attempt to be sober tomorrow, to avoid threatening to kill anyone. Goodnight all.

I know where you're coming from, Kyle, and I've done it myself often enough but, because there are fewer of us, we're somewhat less anonymous here than we were on BBC 606. That means these kind of comments and who makes them sticks in the memory. We depend on the moderators to maintain order and clean up when interlopers and trolls invade and try to disrupt the F1 board – it's not really fair to expect them to have to clean up after us, too, when we've let things get out of hand.

The big text just highlights what's at the core of this discussion. Each side either cannot or will not see what the other side sees in the video. The Sky F1 Show last night (special guests: Christian Horner and Johnny Herbert) ran SilverArrow's video to explain why the stewards were correct and Karthikeyan was wholly at fault. It was unequivocal – just like the opinions expressed here. Everyone on this forum deserves the chance to post their opinion but there's no longer any point in responding because this thread is now just this:


[video=youtube;kQFKtI6gn9Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y[/video]​

My suggestion is that we put it to the vote and leave it at that:

Who was more to blame?

Vettel
Karthikeyan
50/50
 
Has this been posted? Sorry if it has but I didn't notice it and I might as well pop it in before we finish off.

[video=youtube;KIpKdNJIeo8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIpKdNJIeo8[/video]​
 
hehe I wouldn't had taken offence from that but thanks for the consideration!

I can munch bacon all day without gaining anything, I guess I am lucky that way :)

I hate you, my brothers like that compared with me who will gain weight just by eating a cucumber...

I would say the camera angle behind both drivers is deceiving as its not Seb that is moving, but it's the track bending towards him that's making it look like he is moving left. The other camera angle facing them is more accurate position to see who turns left or right, for me it shows Seb didn't move to Narains line but was slowly moving into the Marussia's slipstream. Narain as you can clearly see is not looking in front of his car but in his left mirror and looking for Seb.

I stick by what I said at the start when I saw this, Narain was planning to always move in that direction to get out of Sebs way, he just didn't expect Seb to be in front already.
 
haha, anyone else notice the middle finger at about 18 or 19 seconds on the video above, lol

lol, i thought i saw it, then had to rewind. It's also the first time I've heard the audio of him calling Karthikayen an idiot, from everyones reaction to it I assumed he'd been screaming at the camera, or was at least heated. I guess there's quite a few people with an axe to grind, funny how the same people stick up for others when they call them '****ing idiots' even when the crash is 100% their fault.
 
I hate you, my brothers like that compared with me who will gain weight just by eating a cucumber...

I wouldn't worry about it, when I was younger all my mates took the piss cos I was larger, now they all look like extras from a Jacomo advert and I'm roughly the same size as I was, which is a lot smaller.
 
I wouldn't worry about it, when I was younger all my mates took the piss cos I was larger, now they all look like extras from a Jacomo advert and I'm roughly the same size as I was, which is a lot smaller.

Eating Celery burns up more calories than in the Celery itself. <ok>
 
I thought the Bob Bobbinz' discussion was primarily about the penalty, rather than who may or may not have been at fault.

Surely a poll ought to reflect the primary intent of the thread's author; perhaps along the lines of "should Karthikeyan have received a penalty?" ?
 
I thought the Bob Bobbinz' discussion was primarily about the penalty, rather than who may or may not have been at fault.

Surely a poll ought to reflect the primary intent of the thread's author; perhaps along the lines of "should Karthikeyan have received a penalty?" ?

Arghhh, thats a point. Unfortunately Poll's can't be edited (a flaw in the system). Any one else fancy making that poll to save my incompetence?
 
Arghhh, thats a point. Unfortunately Poll's can't be edited (a flaw in the system). Any one else fancy making that poll to save my incompetence?

Well, if polls cannot be edited, I presume you mean writing a new thread for it? The trouble with that would be the probability of people explaining their vote with the same arguments expressed in this thread; i.e. repetition.

Then again, I suppose everything from this thread could be copied across, and then this thread deleted; but perhaps it would be too much trouble.
 
Right, I voted Vettel,

The incident was really a racing incident to me and I don't wan't to blame anyone. Though Vettel's behaviour post accident was extremely low, hence deserves a vote.
 
I thought the Bob Bobbinz' discussion was primarily about the penalty, rather than who may or may not have been at fault.

Surely a poll ought to reflect the primary intent of the thread's author; perhaps along the lines of "should Karthikeyan have received a penalty?" ?

Sorry, cosi. The poll was my suggestion, intended retrospectively to reflect the main thrust of the thread and quiet the repetitive statement of opinion rather than just the OP; cf. a couple of comments on Miggins's Massa thread suggesting he'd asked the wrong question, against the options people wanted to discuss. This thread had no poll and a second thread on the same subject to respond to the discussion wouldn't be desirable.