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Karthikeyan gets a penalty

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Bob Bobbinz, Mar 26, 2012.

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Who's fault was it?

Poll closed Apr 3, 2012.
  1. Vettel's

    16.7%
  2. Karthikeyan's

    38.9%
  3. 50/50

    33.3%
  4. .....Hamilton's

    11.1%
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  1. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    At the end of the day... **** happens, Vettel lost his cool and had a rant. It will be forgotten by the end of the season.

    I think I'm more annoyed by Horner... The rest is racers blowing off steam.
     
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  2. Kyle?

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    Well if Horner didn't defend Vettel, then it would be bad management, he has to stick up for his drivers.
     
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  3. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    Oh I agree... He was very disparaging of HRT though and I felt that was uncalled for.
     
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  4. Nazara

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    I have to agree with you Bhaji, although I let my views through a bit too strongly on Wednesday.


    Oh Mods, I have changed my username AGAIN. Sorry about that.
     
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  5. Kyle?

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    HRT shouldn't even be on the grid, they're an unfunny joke.
     
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  6. SgtBhaji

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    I disagree in that... More teams only benefits the sport. A more even distribution of the coffers would allow them to compete. It shouldn't be down to the big teams to have to give them hand-me-downs.

    The sport offered these teams a way in when the manufactures were bailing out left and right, then just leaves them to languish.
     
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  7. Kyle?

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    I would get rid of HRT, Marussia and Caterham, they offer the sport nothing at all, and are taking the places of potential manufacturers who are interested (VW)
     
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  8. SgtBhaji

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    And what happens when VW realize it's a money pit that brings not tangible return?

    F1 isn't about big manufacturers using the sport as a platform to promote crappy cars, it should be about innovators, people with a passion to race... not pump more cars off a production line.
     
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  9. Kyle?

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    I'm all in favour of big business, if the manufacturers want back in to F1 (BMW,Honda,Toyota) i'd welcome them with open arms. Thats 2 good teams and Toyota who left.
     
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  10. SgtBhaji

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    BMW, Toyota, Honda, Renault (can maybe count Ford in that) all walked... And most spent a crap load of cash to run midfield, then realized it was a waste of money. Only Merc remain as a true manufacturer. They are not the future of the sport.
     
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  11. Kyle?

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    And a bunch of bankrupt spaniards are?
     
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  12. chrispa76

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    Ferrari? :confused:
     
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  13. SgtBhaji

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    Ferrari sell cars to race rather than race to sell cars.
     
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  14. SgtBhaji

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    Wouldn't be broke if the coffers were shared more evenly rather than going in Bernies back pocket. He cares nothing for the sport.
     
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  15. Kyle?

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    They should have known all this prior to signing up, they're just a bunch of useless ****es, who trundle around, generally being annoying. Like a wheeled version of James Allen.
     
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  16. SgtBhaji

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    When they signed up... the terms were not quite what they are now. I'd prefer a growing grid of competition than a dwindling grid.
     
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  17. Kyle?

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    There is no competition though, the 3 teams at the back just really suck.
     
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  18. SgtBhaji

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    And with some cash, they might not suck so bad.

    There will always be a top and bottom of the deck, but if those teams had a hand up from the sport, not only would they benefit but the whole sport would benefit. They need time and need some money. otherwise we'll have this never ending cycle of teams trying to enter the sport and then dropping out 3 years later.
     
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  19. tomcat606

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    Lol, shut it yourself. Its not 50/50. Why don't you accept the stewards decision?
    http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1_media/Documents/mal-document-36.pdf
    From The FIA Stewards of the Meeting
    To The Team Manager
    HRT F1 Team
    Document 36
    Date 25 March 2012
    Time 19:40
    The Stewards, having received a report from the Race Director, have considered the following matter,
    determine a breach of the regulations has been commited by the competitor named below and impose
    the penalty referred to.
    No / Driver 23 - Narain Karthikeyan
    Competitor HRT F1 Team
    Time 18:32:00
    Session Race
    Fact Causing a collision with Car 1 Sebastian Vettel
    Offence
    Involved in an incident as defined by Article 16.1 of the FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations
    Decision
    Drive through penalty, imposed after the race in accordance with article 16.3 (20 seconds added to
    elapsed race time)
    Reason
    Self-explanatory
    The FIA Stewards of the Meeting
    Paul Gutjahr Roger Peart
    Johnny Herbert Allen Oh
     
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  20. SgtBhaji

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    It looks very different depending on the angle or footage that you look at it from. After looking at more footage it does seem that Vettel wasn't as guilty as first seemed. But that doesn't change the fact that people have opinions. Even the stewards decision is an opinion of sorts (though maybe much more educated).

    We're only two races in, there's going to be a whole lot of contentious incidents, so I say that we don't all fall out just yet. Otherwise we'll all be bored as buggery come the last race. :)
     
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