Starmer handng out £4m to Italy to stop the irregulars and protect uk industry.
£4,000,000 is that his secret plan ... "look I am doing something we have just given Italy £4m to stop them coming here!"
Starmer handng out £4m to Italy to stop the irregulars and protect uk industry.
he wont because he doesnt actually know he has to deal with what? is it dealing with a border guard "super" upgrade or slipping £4m to Italy or robbing pensioners or why no start on GBE or why give out 22% payrises ... I suppose he could send us pestilence or storms and floods?May the Lord help us.
£4,000,000 is that his secret plan ... "look I am doing something we have just given Italy £4m to stop them coming here!"
I’m not responsible for making the decision to grant amnesty to these people, I suggest you ask these questions to those that allowed the problem to develop in the first place.
However these people are here now , they are here largely due to the failure of the last government to put measures in place to either stop them coming, or to process them once they arrived. Something has to be done with them, what do you suggest?
The previous government failed to deal with the problem, not only stopping them coming, but failing to process them once they’ve arrived. I’m happy to at least give this government time to resolve the situation before passing judgement. At least if we can deal with the backlog it’ll mean we can process new arrivals quicker, which may help discouraging so many arriving.
As for unskilled immigration, obviously if you don’t process arrivals quickly they can come by that route, which you have no control over, again all the more reason to speed up the process.
We have to not only stop the boats, but also sort out the backlog, so we can process people quickly. The cost of not sorting out the backlog is enormous
[ from reply to Ashton ]The current Labour government by giving amnesty to huge numbers of illegals to apply for asylum comes at huge costs financially, and this is the opposite of a deterrent. ....... making statements frequently while avoiding facts
I will try to explain. We have been allowing in large numbers of legal immigrants for years. That’s something that the Tories have been saying they will bring down, it’s been in their manifesto”s since 2010, but they’ve failed to achieve it.You are responsible for your own posts. You are making statements frequently while avoiding facts. You have consistently been asked a question regarding your own statements centering on the current governments immigration policy.
The previous governments have failed to deal with immigration. Both governments have committed to lowering both legal and illegal levels of immigration and failed to do do.
The current Labour government by giving amnesty to huge numbers of illegals to apply for asylum comes at huge costs financially, and this is the opposite of a deterrent.
I do not understand your point about unskilled illegal immigration. The Country does not need a unskilled workforce being sourced from illegality.
We have to not only stop the boats, but also sort out the backlog, so we can process people quickly. The cost of not sorting out the backlog is enormous ... All immigration has to be controlled. The extremist mass migration we have has huge costs economically and culturally, we have a Country that has no long term strategy to accommodate what is occurring.
I will try to explain. We have been allowing in large numbers of legal immigrants for years. That’s something that the Tories have been saying they will bring down, it’s been in their manifesto”s since 2010, but they’ve failed to achieve it.
Then there is the ilegal ones, mostly by small boats, these include both immigrants and asylum seekers. The cost of not processing these quickl is high, and also could add to the numbers, because the illegals are aware their cases will take years, and in the meantime they’ll be relatively well looked after and are likely to be successful in the end.
We need to find a way to clear up the backlog, but also a way to deal with new arrivals quickly.
If we can deal with new arrival’s quickly and return any that fail, that would be less costly because we won’t have to pay for their upkeep whilst they are waiting to be processed, it could also act as a deterrent if they know that unless they have a valid case they are less likely to be successful.
What do you think should be done?We have been allowing in huge numbers, historically unprecedented numbers for decades.
This is Labours manifesto from 2005. Layout 1 (deryn.co.uk)
"We will establish a points system for those seeking to migrate here. More skills mean more points and more chance of being allowed to come here". And "We will ensure that only skilled workers are allowed to settle long-term in the UK, with English language tests for everyone who wants to stay permanently and an end to chain migration". And "By the end of 2005, our aim is for removals of failed asylum seekers to exceed new unfounded claims". The governments manifesto in 2005 is lie after lie regarding immigration. They delivered none of it.
This started with Labour and continued with the Tories. Mass immigration is now on steroids.
If we can deal with new arrival’s quickly and return any that fail ... Labour can't. The UK is struggling to deport even monsters like Lawangeen Abdulrahimzai.
Labour is encouraging via amnesties to continue the status quo. Labour has no active deterrent.
of the numbers arriving this year circa 11,000 are able bodied single men between 20 & 39 mostly with with no skills ! And most arrivals have had plenty money to pay for their way...eat get clothed phone home on I phones etc up to £4000 for passage ................. ! £ 1000 a boat one of 60 has paid collectively around £50-60,000! cant pay then go into black market to pay it off .... taking away jobs from real working people!Then there is the illegal ones, mostly by small boats, these include both immigrants and asylum seekers.
What do you think should be done?
Great in theory, but it won't happen, the same as it didn't happen under the Tories.The opposite of the Labour party. Seriously we cannot support the population we have now. We have not absorbed the ever increasing record numbers of migrants we have taken in over decades. Labour should freeze all non essential immigration. Introduce skills based immigration. Leave the EHRC.
Great in theory, but it won't happen, the same as it didn't happen under the Tories.
Taking care of Immigrants seems to matter more to successive Governments than British people who work and pay their taxes.
That’s why millions of people are turning to Reform as they seem to be the only party willing to debate it, let alone actually try to stop itwhats going to happen is next nothing and a serious problem gets handed down the decades. whose it going to hurt the most people at the bottom not the ones causing this. whats the uk going to be like in twenty years?? it makes you angry thinking about whats going on.
2 months is too early to judge. Obviously no one could clear up 14 years of mismanagement that quickly - we are in a mess.That’s why millions of people are turning to Reform as they seem to be the only party willing to debate it, let alone actually try to stop it
Millions more will vote Reform next time to make sure the population are listened to rather than the London elite doing nothing about it.
Trouble is that it’s already too late, Pandoras box has been opened and can't be shut.
The country is beyond flat broke and we are doomed to be in vast amounts of more unnecessary debt because of the immigration situation.
And yet, Labour want to borrow another £20bn.
Maybe if they didn't pay off the Train Drivers, Junior Doctors etc, and started deporting illegals and reducing the obscene hospitality and welfare bill, they wouldn't need to borrow, and waste yet more money.
And people of the UK are still not being listened to after the Summer riots.
Starmer called it all far right thuggery and locked every offender, no matter how petty the crime, up.
He's already way out of his depth and he and this Government are oblivious to the real and ongoing rage of the people over the injustices going on everywhere, from Policing, to immigration and to the justice system.
After 14 years of governing, the Tories had been awful over a lot of things.
And yet, Labour are worse after just 2 months in charge.