Anarchist my friend, not Marxist. Anyway, I've always thought of Norwich as a stronghold of rebellion and non-conformity.
Jimmy Carr, epitomises the 'Champagne Socialist'. Personally, I'm too hard working and skint to ever consider voting Labour. Whoops, never talk politics amongst friends, easiest way to lose them ....................coat
Don't understand how Carr lets a posh bloke who thinks it ok for the taxpayer to pay to have his wisteria trimmed on his second home lecture him on the morality of tax payment That said hope all of them get totally fleeced all the assets of K2 should be seized and given to overseas aid then we won't have to put up with Gary Barlow trying to act the saint again while he avoids paying basic tax
No,it's me too. I don't approve of what he has done but it was legal,I notice that Dave won't condemn Gary Barlow the talentless tosser,maybe because he's a Tory. Remember Tories? Tax dodgers to a man.Hypocrisy.
To be honest I started going off Grant Holt when he announced on Twitter that he was a Tory - why on earth would anybody ever be proud of that? I'd love to see that smug, massively overrated tosser Gary Barlow hauled over the coals for this - £28m his lot are alledged to have avoided paying in tax which is absolutely scandalous if you ask me. I'm personally not having a bar of this "it was all within the rules" crap either, it was the same bollocks that the MPs tried to peddle with the expenses affair - that was actually relatively small fry when compared with the amounts we're talking about in this latest scandal. Morally it stinks, and for Carr, Barlow or any of these tossers to be dodging tax when the people who pay their wages, those hard working people who do a ****ty job monday-friday so they can afford the privelege of paying over the odds to go and see these people perform pay their full share then I'm afraid there is definitely something very wrong. I bet they all have cleaners who pay a higher rate of tax than they do despite earning a tiny fraction of what their employer does. Absolute bollocks. And while we're talking about tax I just heard tonight that Harry Redknapp has finalised his pay-off from Spurs. Apparently he'll be receiving a fat cheque for £3m, which in his case equates to £3m after tax
Morally it stinks? You know what morally stinks, Sid? Hard-working people not being able to keep 100% of their income. Shop-owners having to overcharge people due to VAT. Family businesses working under the yoke of corporation tax. The dying not being able to rest in peace and leave all their belongings to their children. The government are thieving scum. Taxation is robbery. In order to pursue the basic human desire to keep what you make, you have to ignore tax bills. You have to fend off advances from tax collectors and police officers trespassing on your property to try and kidknap you and hold you hostage, or 'arrest' and 'imprison' you if you fancy the political euphemisms. And if you try basic self-defence from those advances with defensive weaponry? You get murdered. That's what hacks me off in a true moral sense and not just in your selfish, pragmatic one one which entails other people being forced to abandon their rightfully-earnt possessions by a bunch of criminals 'elected' by the unintelligent mob and backed by a bunch of unaccountable, self-important uniformed thugs.
The awful Gary Barlow and his Take That cronies are in the same scheme as Carr but Cameron doesn't single them out. The Tories and their deceitful supporters always try and cheat the tax system.
That's an outrageously simplistic take on it.As someone observed we have the least bad system possible with democracy.People have to pay tax in some form or there would be no services,police,education,medical.The only argument is how we cut the cake. It seems that entertainers and footballers enable themselves to gain a disproportionate share of that cake by their rarity.Carr is a very funny comedian,Holt is a very good goalscorer,consequently both manage to gain big - some would say too big - shares of the cake.Then we have Messrs Barlow and Barton who,despite having less talent,get even bigger shares of the cake.It's an Enigma that Alan Turing couldn't crack. In my experience,and I have a bit,politicians are largely well meaning people.I've even known a couple of decent Tories.Maybe you should experience Eastern European style "Socialism" or the sort of government that US survivalists crave with no state interference at all.But it would be a return to the dark ages.
I guess it's time to own up. I'm also involved in a totally legal scheme to avoid the top rate of tax. I'm in a job that doesn't pay enough. I work in the "Care Sector'.
To be honest since the raising of VAT to 20% many small businesses have been forced to fiddle.It's either that or go out of business.Many people point blank refuse to deal with you unless you circumvent the tax.
I acn't see what the problem is, you employ an accountant to look after your money and to find a legal way to pay less tax. I does anybody here put money into an ISA? you can legally put money in to save paying some tax, it just the same thing but on a smaller scale!
