Transfer Rumours January Transfer Thread

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Rosenior does. Why not keep Lokilo around till the end of the season. Hopefully he won't feature much but at least he's a natural winger

Rosenior hasn't had options available. With Philogene back, Carvalho signed, plus two other wide options coming in we now have four natural wide players before we have to consider central options.
 
Rosenior hasn't had options available. With Philogene back, Carvalho signed, plus two other wide options coming in we now have four natural wide players before we have to consider central options.

Carvalho isn't a natural wide player though, is he? He's a 10 but he's slight so he gets played there like Vaughan
 
Letting Lokilo & Allahyar go even if we do sign this other winger still leaves us short. And I'm fed up with the 'solution' to be to play central players in there as it ****s up how we play

I take your point, but I guess this is more to do with finances and as far as Allahyar is concerned playing time. Yes, ideally keep them both around, but I guess you have to balance the books so to speak, and it maybe that there got an offer in for Lokilo so on balance he has been allowed to leave.
 
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Rosenior does. Why not keep Lokilo around till the end of the season. Hopefully he won't feature much but at least he's a natural winger

He' not a natural winger in my book, he's good at receiving the ball, NOT taking his man on and passing sideways on a good day, and backwards every day. I can do that and I hung my boots up a while ago.
 
Letting Lokilo & Allahyar go even if we do sign this other winger still leaves us short. And I'm fed up with the 'solution' to be to play central players in there as it ****s up how we play

Philogene, Omur, A new winger, Vaughan all as natural wingers. With Carvalho more than capable of also playing out wide. 5 for 2 positions is fine
 
It’s all just a bit summer 2022. Send Twine back and get Carvalho in, yes great business. Could be argued we didn’t really need Twine in the first place with Tufan and Traore both first team quality players for that one position, but that’s besides the point.

Now we’re allegedly spending millions on this Omur who also specialises in the same position. 4 expensive top quality first team players for one role, a large chunk of money which could be much better spent elsewhere. Going back to the first sentence re 2022, it’s starting to feel like we’re just signing good players because they’ve become available not with any particular plan of building a team out of them.
 
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City have always 'produced' young players who have come through the acedemy/youth development. They haven't always sold for 'over £1m' but we have produced a couple who have sold at the higher end of the transfer market of the day. The Stuart Pearson transfer in 1974? was amongst the top ten transfer fees in the country at the time. We received good amounts for Paul Haigh, Peter Daniel, Andy Payton. Brian Marwood, Leigh Jenkinson, Roy Greenwood, John Hawley and of course Dean Windass, even Dave Stewart went for a reasonable amount to Chelsea from us. The only time this particular production line ceased was when Terry Dol*n and Fish dismantled the youth scheme altogether and we lost two generations of not just young players but supporters too.
Having said all that we haven't produced as much home grown young talent as some clubs of a similiar size because of our geography and the fact that talented young sportsmen around here can be poached to play rugby league, and please don't tell me it doesnt go on.
When i played amateur/youth football around here, a long time ago, if a scout was on the touchline you could bet your weeks wages that they would be from every club in the FL except Hull City. It seemed to get noticed for City boys at that time, you had to be recommended by Fred Ramsden. Thankfully it has changed today.

Interestingly, there were twins Roger & Pete De Vries who were at Wolfreton when I was there, both were good players, but Pete in my opinion was better than Roger but when City scouts here watching Roger had a good game and was picked up to play for us.
 
It’s all just a bit summer 2022. Send Twine back and get Carvalho in, yes great business. Could be argued we didn’t really need Twine in the first place with Tufan and Traore both first team quality players for that one position, but that’s besides the point.

Now we’re allegedly spending millions on this Omur who also specialises in the same position. 4 expensive top quality first team players for one role, a large chunk of money which could be much better spent elsewhere. Going back to the first sentence re 2022, it’s starting to feel like we’re just signing good players because they’ve become available not with any particular plan of building a team out of them.


Giles and Omur and Pandur are decent age group with probably plenty of improvement to come for the future if they manage to keep any of loans then it looks like they are building a decent team and at prices that could have cost alot more in the future.
 
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Giles and Omur and Pandur are decent age group with probably plenty of improvement to come for the future if they manage to keep any of loans then it looks like they are building a decent team and at prices that could have cost alot more in the future.

Not to mention with loans going back in the summer, they have several months in and around the first team plus training to integrate better, and leaves us less exposed if we don't go up
 
Not sure if I missed this earlier but the last I knew, we had an option to buy Giles if we wanted in the summer. Reports today are suggesting its an obligation. I wonder if thats been the hold up over the last week? Maybe we tried for an option but Luton insisted on it being an obligation. Also reports today are saying the fee is up to £5m, not the £4m previously reported by Baz last week.

Could be nothing at all, perhaps Baz simply got his facts wrong last week and it was always going to be an obligation to buy in the summer for £5m, which is what Luton paid for him in the summer.
 
Not to mention with loans going back in the summer, they have several months in and around the first team plus training to integrate better, and leaves us less exposed if we don't go up

Yes the players he is doing deals for now will still be with us if we are not fortunate enough to go up this season.
 
I think this notion of having to have out and out wingers isn't really as big a deal as some are making out. If Giles signs he and Coyle will provide width so it is more a creative 3 behind a main striker. Philogene will generally be wide and Carvalho can too. If it ends up being Omur as the third I think you will see a lot of swapping around and drifting inside. Will certainly be more fluid than a 442.
 
I think this notion of having to have out and out wingers isn't really as big a deal as some are making out. If Giles signs he and Coyle will provide width so it is more a creative 3 behind a main striker. Philogene will generally be wide and Carvalho can too. If it ends up being Omur as the third I think you will see a lot of swapping around and drifting inside. Will certainly be more fluid than a 442.
Omur has played a lot wide right too. Carvalho naturally drifts wide with his style too. Think we’ll be fine
 
Not sure if I missed this earlier but the last I knew, we had an option to buy Giles if we wanted in the summer. Reports today are suggesting its an obligation. I wonder if thats been the hold up over the last week? Maybe we tried for an option but Luton insisted on it being an obligation. Also reports today are saying the fee is up to £5m, not the £4m previously reported by Baz last week.

Could be nothing at all, perhaps Baz simply got his facts wrong last week and it was always going to be an obligation to buy in the summer for £5m, which is what Luton paid for him in the summer.

We'll find out when it's announced, little point in worrying about the terms when we've no idea what they are.
 
Birmingham City
In: Andre Dozzell (QPR, loan)

Out: None

Blackburn Rovers
In : Ben Chrisene (Aston Villa, loan), Yasin Ayari (Brighton, loan), Connor O'Riordan (Crewe Alexandra, undisclosed)

Out: Lewis Travis (Ipswich, loan)

Bristol City
In: Adam Murphy (St Patrick's, undisclosed fee), Scott Twine (Burnley, loan), Taylor Gardner-Hickman (West Brom, undisclosed), Josh Stokes (Aldershot, undisclosed)

Out: Andreas Weimann (West Brom, loan)

Cardiff City
In: None

Out: None

Coventry City
In: None

Out: Jordan Obikwu (Grimsby, loan)

Huddersfield Town
In: Alex Matos (Chelsea, loan), Bojan Radulovic (HJK Helsinki, undisclosed fee), Rhys Healey (Watford, undisclosed), Radinio Balker (Groningen, undisclosed)

Out: Rarmani Edmonds-Green (Charlton Athletic, undisclosed), Josh Austerfield (Crewe Alexandra, loan)

Hull City
In: Billy Sharp (free), Fabio Carvalho (Liverpool, loan), Ivor Pandur (Fortuna Sittard)

Out: Scott Twine (Bristol City), Ruben Vinagre (Hellas Verona), Harry Wood (Grimsby Town), Andy Smith (Cheltenham Town)

Ipswich Town
In: Jeremy Sarmiento (Brighton, loan), Lewis Travis (Blackburn, loan)

Out: Kyle Edwards (Oxford, free), Freddie Ladapo (Charlton, loan)

Leeds United
In: None

Out: Robin Koch (Eintracht Frankfurt, permanent in the summer) Luke Ayling (Middlesbrough, loan), Darko Gyabi (Plymouth Argyle, loan), Lewis Bate (MK Dons, loan)

Leicester City
In: None

Out: Daniel Iverson (Stoke, loan)

Middlesbrough
In: Finn Azaz (Aston Villa, undisclosed fee), Luke Ayling (Leeds United, loan), Luke Thomas (Leicester City, loan)

Out: Hayden Coulson (Blackpool, loan)

Millwall
In: Michael Obafemi (Burnley, loan), Japhet Tanganga (Tottenham, loan)

Out: None

Norwich City
In: None

Out: Emmanuel Adegboyega (Walsall, loan), Archie Mair (Morecambe, loan), Tony Springett (Northampton, loan), Jaden Warner (Notts County, loan)

Plymouth Argyle
In: Ashley Phillips (Tottenham, loan), Darko Gyabi (Leeds United, loan), Adam Forshaw (Norwich City, free), Alfie Devine (Tottenham, loan), Matthew Sorinola (Union Saint-Gilloise, free)

Out: Macaulay Gillesphey (Charlton, undisclosed), Tyreik Wright (Bradford, loan)

Preston North End
In: None

Out: Lewis Leigh (Crewe, loan)

Queens Park Rangers
In: None

Out: Stephen Duke-McKenna (Sutton United, loan), Kayden Harrack (Morecambe, free)

Rotherham United
In: None

Out: Tolaji Bola (Burton Albion, loan)

Sheffield Wednesday
In: James Beadle (Brighton, loan), Ike Ugbo (Troyes, loan)

Out: Tyreeq Bakinson (Charlton, loan)

Southampton
In: Joe Rothwell (Bournemouth, loan)

Out: Jack Bycroft (Swindon, undisclosed)

Stoke City
In: Daniel Iverson (Leicester, loan), Luke Cundle (Wolves, loan), Scott Morris (Christchurch, undisclosed)

Out: Tommy Simkin (Forest Green, loan)

Sunderland
In: None

Out: Jack Diamond (Carlisle United, loan)

Swansea City
In: None

Out: Brandon Cooper (Leyton Orient, undisclosed), Nathanael Ogbeta (Bolton Wanderers, loan)

Watford
In: Emmanuel Dennis (Nottingham Forest, loan)

Out: None

West Bromwich Albion
In: Andreas Weimann (Bristol City, loan), Callum Marshall (West Ham, loan)

Out: Taylor Gardner-Hickman (Bristol City, undisclosed), Mo Faal (Walsall, loan)
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