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Jake Livermore has made one appearance for England - in 2012
Hull City midfielder Jake Livermore will not be banned after testing positive for cocaine.

The 25-year-old was suspended by the Football Association and his club in May after failing a drug test, pending the outcome of a disciplinary hearing.

The England international, who faced a possible two-year ban, tested positive after the death of his newborn child.

"There's no question it was a mitigating factor," said Hull manager Steve Bruce to the BBC last month.

"Unfortunately he lost his baby just after the FA Cup final last year.

"Jake has kept all of the problems that he had to himself. All footballers think they are macho-men but they have problems like everybody else."

A disciplinary hearing took place last week at which it was decided the FA would not extend its provisional suspension.

Hull also suspended Livermore following his positive test, but have yet to comment on whether he will now be available to play.

Livermore joined Hull from Spurs for £8m in August 2014 after a season-long loan, making 35 league appearances last season as the Tigers were relegated to the Championship.

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Bizarre decision regardless of the circumstances...
I wonder what other 'personal tragedies' are on the list that deems it acceptable for a sportsperson to participate in Class A drug taking with no disciplinary action taken?!?

The ****in FA are a joke!!
 
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Let's prioritise this in the right order...

1. He's ****ing awful so it makes no odds if he's having a slug before the game or not.
2. We don't really need a second one do we?
 
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Aussie blackcat85 said:
Put yourself in in his shoes, it's the right decision by the FA 'if' he's been rehabilitated.
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Does that go for everybody that fails the test fella?

I have to be careful here because it's a very sensitive subject for obvious reasons. What has happened is no excuse for turning to Cocaine, it's understandable but not an excuse. What about other players who have had misery in their lives but have been banned? How is that fair?
 
I initially thought he got off lightly but then thought about it a little, putting aside my hatred and distaste for most things Hull related, and came to the conclusion his bairn died. I don't think there are many other things in this (1st world) life that are worse experiences.
He's been suspended for a while, we don't know if Hull or the FA have fined him. Any further action would be unnecessary. For once the FA have shown good judgement.
 
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Safc83 said:
Does that go for everybody that fails the test fella?

I have to be careful here because it's a very sensitive subject for obvious reasons. What has happened is no excuse for turning to Cocaine, it's understandable but not an excuse. What about other players who have had misery in their lives but have been banned? How is that fair?
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If he's seeking help himself and brought that forward to the FA then I agree with their decision. Other players that have been banned? That's a question for the fa mate. I can certainly relate to his experience, you lose a family member and it's tough. I won't be questioning the bloke for using coccaine. All big ifs though. Hope he's getting the right help and wish him all the best!
 
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Aussie blackcat85 said:
If he's seeking help himself and brought that forward to the FA then I agree with their decision. Other players that have been banned? That's a question for the fa mate. I can certainly relate to his experience, you lose a family member and it's tough. I won't be questioning the bloke for using coccaine. All big ifs though. Hope he's getting the right help and wish him all the best!
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Absolutely mate <ok>
 
The IAAF wouldn't care about his misery.

Drugs in sport are banned, there's no exception to the rule.

You lot would be kicking off big time if this was Cisse and he'd just scored against you, it's because he's ****, nobody cares.

There can't be special dispensations for drug takers in sport, his kid died which is truly awful and I wouldn't wish that on any player, but it's NOT an excuse, sorry.
 
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Typical_Juan said:
The IAAF wouldn't care about his misery.

Drugs in sport are banned, there's no exception to the rule.

You lot would be kicking off big time if this was Cisse and he'd just scored against you, it's because he's ****, nobody cares.

There can't be special dispensations for drug takers in sport, his kid died which is truly awful and I wouldn't wish that on any player, but it's NOT an excuse, sorry.
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Who said it was an excuse?
 
It's all relative imo. The lad has had severe trauma. Different people cope with things like that in different was.
When my Janie died I was constantly on the piss to such an extent that I couldn't remember owt.
It didn't really help much because with me alcohol heightens whatever emotion I'm feeling but at least it got me some sleep.
I was the same when my ex miscarried.
I think the FA have called this right. I wish the lad well & hope he can recover from his demons.
He's gone through something that no parent should have to suffer & I don't think anybody should kick a man when he's on the floor like this lad will be.
 
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I'm with Billy 100% on this.

We don't know how deeply he was affected as we all respond in different ways, if he's gone into a spiral and been dealing with depression then that would come under mental health and therefore there would be a certain level of responsibility and of lenience that would need to be allowed.

The lad has clearly suffered, and as Hull were relegated it's clear no sporting advantage was gained, I see no real harm in the handling of the situation, other than, as Terry says, it may open the floodgates for similar stories to cover.

I've no doubt Livermore's reasons are genuine, for the record, but moving forward a precedent has been set.
 
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Billy Cattermole said:
It's all relative imo. The lad has had severe trauma. Different people cope with things like that in different was.
When my Janie died I was constantly on the piss to such an extent that I couldn't remember owt.
It didn't really help much because with me alcohol heightens whatever emotion I'm feeling but at least it got me some sleep.
I was the same when my ex miscarried.
I think the FA have called this right. I wish the lad well & hope he can recover from his demons.
He's gone through something that no parent should have to suffer & I don't think anybody should kick a man when he's on the floor like this lad will be.
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I don't agree that it's kicking him whilst he is down.

There was a player in the Championship who lost his son I believe, Billy something, maybe played for Preston or Doncaster... he went out and played shortly after his kid died. Each person will deal with it differently of course, but there should be a zero tolerance policy in place for drugs in sport in my opinion.

I'm all for being sympathetic to the guy but he absolutely deserves a ban here for me.
 
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