Is Warnock Right?
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I just seen a flash of your post so it was you that brought me here>>>>>>>>>>as a Cardiff fan I will defend my club against blatant racism
I think you might be getting yourself a bit confused..
Willie McKay's eldest son Mark is officially the agent who is actually fronting his father Willie because he was made bankrupt a couple of years ago and can't run an agency for 5 years. It was those two who arranged everything on behalf of Nantes who engaged them as their agents to tout Sala around the Prem clubs for a 10% commission.
The two younger sons, twins Jack and Paul were brought in as youngsters from Leeds a while back and have never made the grade with the club. In fact each are out on loan now with Chesterfield and Morecambe. There are a telephoned texts between Jack and Emiliano just before he went back to Nantes to say goodbye to his teammates that have been manipulated into implicating young Jack as an organiser, whereas in fact they were just chatting to each other about playing together.
The Daily Mail has tried to run a smear campaign against CCFC and Warnock implying that Warnock was in fact in cahoots with the McKays over the dealings. That rag has all the principles of a snake in the grass and its' journos concoct stories out of nothing to sell column inches.
This may sound bias from a Cardiff supporter but I just hate it when another club poster comes up with opinions as though they were facts.
im talking about the plonker that has some lame excuses for disliking my club>>>>>>>>>>its obviously a racist twist and nothing else.
I'm not a reader of the Daily Mail so I must have read it somewhere else, (though any paper could have made some sweeping statements obviously)
The signings were (supposedly) linked with a number of Cardiff signings through the McKays (Dad and Eldest son). Sol Bamba being listed as one such transaction, and the element that I find the most confusing is that neither player had achieved anything in the game to warrant being signed by a club pushing for promotion from the Championship (In other words, would never have had a sniff at a club like yours if it wasn't for the family connection)
Obviously you can refute that, as I'm sure you will as you know more than me about Cardiff City.. And I will also point out there are plenty of other examples.. Steve Bruce and Tony Pulis have signed their own sons on multiple occasions so it's not a witch hunt just an observation on that particular relationship
so would you dislike a club for changing colour of kit>>>>>some unknown race story which there is many on a constant basis or the non payment for a player that didn't play for you.
that's all smoke and mirrors for his dislike for us he only needed an excuse the only thing he`s afraid 2 say is that he hates us because we are welsh end of.....................don't worry I wouldn't report it im fully up for speaking your personal opinions.......its the smoke and mirrors part I don't like be straight or fk up
really
There's not a racist bone in Scowey's body.
I can relate to what Scowey is saying - Vincent Tan didn't do the club's PR any favours and Neil Warnock is not exactly many people's favourite manager. Probably only Roy Hodgson in the Premier League that I have less time for. The VAR rant is irritating - it's not as though Warnock would hand the points back if the situation was reversed.
It's got nothing to do with being Welsh, I think most people admired Swansea, particularly their playing style. I don't think many would say the same for Cardiff.
As you say, there are connections throughout football, but that doesn't make the implications about Warnock and McKay any more truthfull - that's of course unless you want to believe it.
On the Sol Bamba front, are you trying to say he was only signed by Cardiff because of a dubious connection and subsequently he has been a failure?
Jesus Wept.
I don't know where to begin with this. I think any rational person would read through this thread and work out who the plonker is
that didn't last long did it>>>>>>>>>>>tells me how much you knew about Swansea before they arrived in prem, tell me do you still admire Swansea as a club selling off its best players and fking over the fans 2 maximise profits for its yank shareholders
The Sol Bamba front was a question more than anything.. There was a rumour that McKay was involved in Bamba joining Cardiff (ahead of other clubs) and that for Cardiff to make it worth McKay's time Cardiff agreed to sign his two sons as well.
Whether there is any truth in that I don't know and I'm sure you probably don't even care as like you say there are so many dodgy connections in football with agents and managers constantly signing players that this wouldn't be an isolated case. Just one that obviously relates to the topic of Cardiff.
Feck me....if it ain't the sister shagging six fingered cretins from up the road, it's the sheep shagging incest breeding mongs from across the border (only kidding, i love you lot really)
Lets get away from this racism thing please - as far as I can see the first poster to use that term was scowey - "I've never particularly liked Cardiff. The change of kits, Racism allegations against staff etc. mean I find them a difficult club to warm to."
The only thing I can think of anywhere remotely connected to that at my club was the issue over Bellamy running the under 18 squad. He has since stepped down from his position pending investigation because some lad's parents complained he turned off the English national anthem on the TV during the World Cup - FFS big deal.
The only thing I can think of anywhere remotely connected to that at my club was the issue over Bellamy running the under 18 squad. He has since stepped down from his position pending investigation because some lad's parents complained he turned off the English national anthem on the TV during the World Cup - FFS big deal.
Lets get away from this racism thing please - as far as I can see the first poster to use that term was scowey - "I've never particularly liked Cardiff. The change of kits, Racism allegations against staff etc. mean I find them a difficult club to warm to."
The only thing I can think of anywhere remotely connected to that at my club was the issue over Bellamy running the under 18 squad. He has since stepped down from his position pending investigation because some lad's parents complained he turned off the English national anthem on the TV during the World Cup - FFS big deal.
I think he's referring to Malky Mackay and that was a nasty business. Over time all these things do add up.
No probs scowey, but let's get some facts right - bugger the conjecture.
Sol Bamba had his contract cancelled by Leeds because he spoke out against their then owner Cellino the previous season. He'd been critical of Cellino and at the start of the following season despite Garry Monk naming him as captain, he was out of work, had no club and was a free agent. He actually trained for a while with Derby but they didn't offer him a deal.
It was only then that Warnock persuaded him to come to Cardiff and the rest is history. The young McKay twins Jack and Paul didn't join Cardiff until January the following year - unless you want to make a connection, there isn't one.