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Is LVG underachieving?

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    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    Let's not forget also being part time fc, according to you all it was the biggest factor in our close finish with city
     
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    Treble Keyser Söze

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    It was but how many part-time seasons did it take you to get there? 4 or 5? This was our first and we can confidently say it will take us less.
     
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    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    He'd probably have signed Kroos and Fabregas <ok>
     
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    He wouldn't have. Absolutely nothing to suggest he would have.

    They would have solved nothing either.
     
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    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    Look at Giggsy's face when he's slumped in the dug out week after week. He isn't buying into LVGs philosophy at all and looks like he's biding his time.
     
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    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    Kroos and Fabregas would have solved nothing? <laugh>
     
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    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    If that was true he wouldn't be the assistant anymore. He would be out of work.
     
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    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    How would they have solved our defensive issues?
     
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    Chief Northern Simpleton Forum Moderator

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    Eh?

    Defence isn't our issue. Our current issue is that Rooney is playing in midfield.
    One of Kroos or Fabregas would solve that in a stroke, let alone both.
     
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    So the feather that is Fabregas would have added steel to the midfield. The main reason for Rooney playing there is to toughen it up a little. It was Fellaini earlier in the season but van Gaal decided he was more effective as a number 10. Kroos isnt known for his strength either.

    Both are creative midfielders. Both require a well disciplined DM with them.
     
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    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    The main reason Rooney is there is because LVG has bought crap for the midfield. You telling me that Blind, Herrera and Dobbie are better acquisitions than Kroos and Fabregas?
    Moyes for me would have sorted the defensive issues too. LVG seems incapable of changing it atOld Trafford. He has no excuses, he should have bought quality defenders and a DM in January. At least Moyes had a genuine excuse in that Woodward fluffed the summer transfer window.
     
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    Blind is fantastic and exactly what we needed. Di maria was one of the best players on earth when we bought him. His form has tailed off but hes still a world class player.

    Are they better. Well Blind is for the DM role. Di maria is a better player than both fabregas and kroos so that leaves Herrera. Either one would have been better than him but neither would have solved the defensive problems. Fabregas would have caused significantly more as hes hasnt got a clue defensively.
     
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    Chief Northern Simpleton Forum Moderator

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    That's where Blind comes in.

    Either or both would have been a better bet than Di Maria or Falcao, neither of whom solve any defensive issues either and are complete luxuries.
     
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    Pointless really. You and the rest of the world would have to wait until the end of the season to make a judgement. Qualify for the CL he is god's gift...<ok> fail to qualify he is in trouble.
     
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    Di maria is anything but a luxury. He brings the one think no other player has in our squad, pace. Kroos and fabregas are slow players. Over Falcao yes but Di Maria can do everything the other too can plus carry the ball at pace. Hes also more reliable defensively than them.

    Put an inform striker in our team and Di marias numbers double. At least. The number of chances hes created for rvp or falcao to not make any attempt for is insane.
     
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    The only thing Di Maria is better than Fabregas and Kroos at is being a winger. Which is what he is.

    You made the comparison, not me, and for our midfield both are a better bet than Di Maria.

    He's 100% a luxury when played anywhere other than out wide.
     
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    Chief Northern Simpleton Forum Moderator

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    In form striker?

    Wayne Rooney.
     
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    Absolute rubbish. No offence but you are talking bollocks.

    Incapable of changing it? He moved from a 442 diamond to a 352 formation and as a result the leagues longest unbeaten run happened. The number of goals conceded dropped significantly and the goals scored remained about the same.

    What was Moyes excuse when he turned down Kroos last summer? (a fergie target) Or when he didnt buy a single defender nor show any interest in them? Or what about messing up a signing that the club had been working on for a year already? Was that Woodward fault or was it dithering Dave who just couldnt make his mind up?

    Woodward showed his abilty the summer just gone. Moyes has shown his entire career that he doesn't have a clue with transfers.
     
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    Well hes not exactly in form but yes, he would be great.
     
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    Chief Northern Simpleton Forum Moderator

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    He's not in form because he's playing in midfield.

    Di Maria is a great player when used correctly. I think we could also manage without Kroos and Fabregas if Herrera was used correctly.

    Same old argument from me really.
     
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