his first half was basically losing the ball the twice he got it in a decent position and two daft fouls...the second of which he seemed to start 5 yards away, bent forward and simply ran into the player, never watched 2nd half as meds kicked in.
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his first half was basically losing the ball the twice he got it in a decent position and two daft fouls...the second of which he seemed to start 5 yards away, bent forward and simply ran into the player, never watched 2nd half as meds kicked in.
Perhaps you're on the same meds, it was a very strange performance wasn't it ...
... he didn't look right coming off the bench in the derby either, looking daggers.
They think it's because their domestic clubs have very few Italian players in their teams in Serie A. Their U21 team has some very talented lads,but they will end up scattered all over Europe playing for other teams.
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It still pisses me off that we lost the Euro final against Italy.
We were in a great position but tactically, technically and mentally we got schooled by them in the second half.
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Probably so.....I'm not trying to make excuses for them....I don't care if they get through or not....I was only presenting their reasoning as part of the discussion.
Well I suppose you could say the same for us, though I don't know what the percentages are.
Mind boggling decline mind.
It is. It might be a reflection on the concept of International football in general......where you put 20+ players,all from different clubs,coaching,lifestyle etc,,into an altogether different environment on a Monday morning,and expect them to blend into a cohesive unit for a match on a Friday evening,often travelling a thousand miles or more on the Thursday.
I've had a little check on this as it has piqued my interest and I've got some time.
The figures I can find say that Serie A has just over 30% of domestic players. The highest such figure in Europe is la Liga with 56%. The Premier League is bottom with 28% and falling.
So I'm sure these numbers are hurting Italy. But what also seems to be hurting is the quality of player that they are attracting . There seems to be more "squad filler" types there than there might be here now, whereas the money in the PL allows for more of the top players from different countries to come here. We've seen ourselves, just promoted, pick up some very good players to show this.
This should, and clearly does, allow young talent to benefit from proximity to these top players, but also forces them to get better to make the team, (Riggy). There is some suggestion too, that the overhaul in youth coaching and Academy structures here this century has borne some fruit with lessons being learned from, ironically enough, Italy among others.
Money is the key unsurprisingly. Italy was once the absolute go to place to make money for footballer, but for a number of reasons, that is no longer the way of things.
My own hunch is that the domestic game in Italy is a little reluctant to change with the wind and adapt a little more to the way others are playing the game, and the international team might be reflecting that. It's a slower game there, as we saw for instance with Billy Gilmour excelling for Napoli after struggling to make a proper dent here. There are other examples of this. Even Spain now has teams which play fast , front foot football at times.
How Italy must yearn for the great Enzo Bearzot, or Arrigo Sachi!
Zola said last week at the NI game that italian teams won’t play there younger players, and I think he said their style of play is too slow.
I think that sums it up better than the long winded drivel I came up with!
Great analysis mate......very interesting and informative.....thanks. I remember being so aware of Italian football in my teen years.....Joe Baker going to Torino etc., and Celtic beating the ultra,cattennacio(sp) Inter Milan. I saw them play at our place in 1966 World Cup.....v Chile....?....can't remember now.
As you say,money is the key to everything these days and it no doubt has played a huge part in the state of Italian football at the minute.
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Brian Brobbey may have walked off from the Netherlands 1-1 draw with Ecuador with mixed emotions, but one thing was clear, the Sunderland striker is ready for a big summer. And he’s receiving elite guidance to get there.
Voetbal Primeur report comments from the 24-year-old today, in which he admits he’s fighting to head to the World Cup.
Brian Brobbey may have walked off from the Netherlands 1-1 draw with Ecuador with mixed emotions, but one thing was clear, the Sunderland striker is ready for a big summer. And he’s receiving elite guidance to get there.
Voetbal Primeur report comments from the 24-year-old today, in which he admits he’s fighting to head to the World Cup.
He’s already been working with a special coach to become a better striker, and now it seems he’s turned to one of the best for extra help. NOS report the Sunderland man has ‘received some valuable tips’ from Ruud van Nistelrooy behind the scenes.
“I just have to keep doing my best at my club (Sunderland),” Brobbey said. “I need to be involved in goals and in the game as well. Then it should all work out.”
Unfortunately for Brobbey, he was unable to make an impact against the South American side as the Dutch battled with 10 men.
It was a tough evening for him, but he knows where he needs to improve, nonetheless.
“I was isolated waiting for those balls,” he added
“Those are the moments (a chance from Quinten Timber) that I need to be ready for when we are down to ten men.”
Brian Brobbey’s impressive performances for Sunderland have led to a change in tone about him in his homeland.
He’s gone from derided at Ajax to loved at Sunderland, who have been credited with turning his career around. Now, one of the pundits who once questioned him has jumped to his defence.
Hans Kraay Junior was watching the game and felt the Sunderland man could do little to impress on his audition.
“If this is your exam match, to see who should replace Depay… seriously,” he said.
“First the Netherlands played 4-4-1 and then 5-3-1. In the full eighty minutes that they were down to ten men, he stood completely alone against two destroyers.
“As Koeman, you can’t say anything at all about this performance by Brobbey.”
Voetbal Primeur report comments from the 24-year-old today, in which he admits he’s fighting to head to the World Cup.
Brian Brobbey may have walked off from the Netherlands 1-1 draw with Ecuador with mixed emotions, but one thing was clear, the Sunderland striker is ready for a big summer. And he’s receiving elite guidance to get there.
Voetbal Primeur report comments from the 24-year-old today, in which he admits he’s fighting to head to the World Cup.
He’s already been working with a special coach to become a better striker, and now it seems he’s turned to one of the best for extra help. NOS report the Sunderland man has ‘received some valuable tips’ from Ruud van Nistelrooy behind the scenes.
“I just have to keep doing my best at my club (Sunderland),” Brobbey said. “I need to be involved in goals and in the game as well. Then it should all work out.”
Unfortunately for Brobbey, he was unable to make an impact against the South American side as the Dutch battled with 10 men.
It was a tough evening for him, but he knows where he needs to improve, nonetheless.
“I was isolated waiting for those balls,” he added
“Those are the moments (a chance from Quinten Timber) that I need to be ready for when we are down to ten men.”
Brian Brobbey’s impressive performances for Sunderland have led to a change in tone about him in his homeland.
He’s gone from derided at Ajax to loved at Sunderland, who have been credited with turning his career around. Now, one of the pundits who once questioned him has jumped to his defence.
Hans Kraay Junior was watching the game and felt the Sunderland man could do little to impress on his audition.
“If this is your exam match, to see who should replace Depay… seriously,” he said.
“First the Netherlands played 4-4-1 and then 5-3-1. In the full eighty minutes that they were down to ten men, he stood completely alone against two destroyers.
“As Koeman, you can’t say anything at all about this performance by Brobbey.”
Is anybody else having withdrawal symptoms, from watching the lads play. Ive never know a season ever where weve had to wait 3 weeks for a game.
On the plus side imagine how the mags must be feeling waiting all this time after suffering a Brobbery
On the plus side imagine how the mags must be feeling waiting all this time after suffering a Brobbery