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Castro's Coffin said:
Is that the Bournemouth who scored more goals than anyone in all four divisions? Their success is all due to penalties?
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The very same and I didn't say it was all down to penalties either. But take away the points they won as a result of penalties and they'd have finished in the play-offs.

Just because they thrashed a few of the crap teams doesn't mean that penalties didn't help them out.
 
HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) said:
The very same and I didn't say it was all down to penalties either. But take away the points they won as a result of penalties and they'd have finished in the play-offs.

Just because they thrashed a few of the crap teams doesn't mean that penalties didn't help them out.
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Have you taken away the points the other teams won as a result of penalties? Bearing in mind a penalty only earns a point if it is an equaliser or the winner where the margin is one goal. A penalty in a win by 2 goals wins nothing.
Unless you work that out for every team it is just supposition and guesswork.
 
Castro's Coffin said:
Bearing in mind a penalty only earns a point if it is an equaliser or the winner where the margin is one goal. A penalty in a win by 2 goals wins nothing.
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Surely you've seen enough football to know that's bollocks.

What if the penalty is the first goal and changes the entire completion of the game? What if the penalty is the second goal and is scored whilst the other team is on the ascendency killing off their chances of an equaliser? What if its an equaliser just before half time?

There's so many instances in which a goal can influence (and ultimately decide) a game even when the margin is greater than one.
 
HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) said:
Surely you've seen enough football to know that's bollocks.

What if the penalty is the first goal and changes the entire completion of the game? What if the penalty is the second goal and is scored whilst the other team is on the ascendency killing off their chances of an equaliser? What if its an equaliser just before half time?

There's so many instances in which a goal can influence (and ultimately decide) a game even when the margin is greater than one.
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They may. The pertinent word being may. What is definite is what I said. And, unless you apply the same criteria to the other teams you can't say they would have been in the play offs. It is hardly a comparison to just knock off any points they may have gained because of penalties in isolation.
 
HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) said:
There's so many instances in which a goal can influence (and ultimately decide) a game even when the margin is greater than one.
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Most games are over with a two goal margin in football.

One of the things that always annoyed me about football is how teams are penalised twice often with a penalty and a sending off. If you want a proper match entertainment then why ruin the spectacle?
 
armchairfan said:
Most games are over with a two goal margin in football.

One of the things that always annoyed me about football is how teams are penalised twice often with a penalty and a sending off. If you want a proper match entertainment then why ruin the spectacle?
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If you don't give the red card for denying a goal scoring opportunity then you'll see a lot of players been hacked down just outside the penalty area when through on goal.

Perhaps only send the defender off if a goal isn't scored from the resulting pen/free kick.
 
Chilton's Hundreds said:
If you don't give the red card for denying a goal scoring opportunity then you'll see a lot of players been hacked down just outside the penalty area when through on goal.

Perhaps only send the defender off if a goal isn't scored from the resulting pen/free kick.
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could lead to some interesting situations - if it happened after say 5 minutes do you deliberately miss the penalty to then play against 10 ten for 85 mins?
 
Am I missing something? It's nice that a "little club" like Bournemouth club have come up but weren't they taken over and relatively spent quite a bit of money to do it?
 
Cortez91 said:
Am I missing something? It's nice that a "little club" like Bournemouth club have come up but weren't they taken over and relatively spent quite a bit of money to do it?
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They bid £5m for Damarai Gray from Birmingham in January.
 
Cortez91 said:
Am I missing something? It's nice that a "little club" like Bournemouth club have come up but weren't they taken over and relatively spent quite a bit of money to do it?
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A lot of money in comparison to which clubs? Their record signing is £3million and
I would hazard a guess their wage bill is less than a lot of the clubs who didn't even make the play offs.
 
Chilton's Hundreds said:
If you don't give the red card for denying a goal scoring opportunity then you'll see a lot of players been hacked down just outside the penalty area when through on goal.

Perhaps only send the defender off if a goal isn't scored from the resulting pen/free kick.
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Not to mention crippling the main threat for the opposition the first time they get in the penalty area.
 
Castro's Coffin said:
A lot of money in comparison to which clubs? Their record signing is £3million and
I would hazard a guess their wage bill is less than a lot of the clubs who didn't even make the play offs.
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The others in the Championship.

I don't know, Sky Sports News gave the impression the new owner had pumped a lot of money in. So I'm just asking?
 
Cortez91 said:
The others in the Championship.

I don't know, Sky Sports News gave the impression the new owner had pumped a lot of money in. So I'm just asking?
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As I said it is all relative. Blackburn spent more on Jordan Rhodes than Bournemouth spent on the whole squad.
The Russian bloke has stabilised and made available reasonable funds but not thrown money at it. SKY were exaggerating somewhat. Probably to make it sound he had more influence than good spending and coaching by the manager. They wouldn't want people thinking there are other ways than throwing money at it, would they?
It will be interesting to see how it develops. Bournemouth has a population of 180,000, similar size to Portsmouth, with the surrounding areas bringing it up to over 400,000. The only club in Dorset. A lot of wealthy people in the area who can sponsor the club and pay high prices for corporate facilities and match day tickets for games. If they extend the ground and stay in the PL they could make a go of things.
 
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Cortez91 said:
The others in the Championship.

I don't know, Sky Sports News gave the impression the new owner had pumped a lot of money in. So I'm just asking?
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I meant in comparison to which clubs. As I said apart from low transfer fees their wage bill won't be high in comparison to a lot of other clubs either.
 
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They've had some decent backing - but not the sort of backing that gave them a big head-start on other Championship clubs.

Their on-pitch achievement is still notable, even if it isn't quite the miracle it's occasionally portrayed as. Just look at Fulham, Cardiff, Forest etc to see how spending can fail to lead to success.
 
Bournemouth's wealthy owner has thrown some cash at getting them up, they lost £15.3m in the 2012/13 season, so I assume their wage bill is hefty for League One(though it's still fairly low in comparison to most Championship clubs).

The team that started against Bolton, in the game that saw them promoted, only cost £4m.
 
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