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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by tomw24, Feb 1, 2015.

  1. AL.

    AL. Well-Known Member

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    Shame. I booed him off. ;)
     
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    The booing seemed to me to be aimed at the Officials not at the player, but I tend not to see ill in people for the sake of it. Hope the lad isn't too badly hurt though, never like to see that. I did see a lot of unfair tactics against Elia in the first half that went unpunished, and the Referee seemed to give Swansea a lot of free kicks for nothing challenges, particularly against Yoshida whose efforts were no different from some of the Swansea challenges.
     
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  3. Le Saint

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    inflammatory - I like it....:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    So you can go in too hard???? It was a throw in to Saints.. full stop
     
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  5. Clem Fandango

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    From my angle (Kitchen corner) it didn't even look like a foul.
     
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  6. tomw24

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    That's ridiculous.
     
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    From my angle in the Kingsland North, I instantly said it was a very bad challenge. I have just watched the link posted on the forum and it doesn't look as bad as at the time.

    I think we can all understand how hard it is depending on what angle you see a challenge. Everyone seeing this from different positions is reading it differently.
     
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    Well clearly it's not a "full stop" situation because dozens of people on here have seen it differently, so no, it's not full stop.
     
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    I wouldn't be at all surprised in hindsight if he wasn't injured at all and it was just to waste time and get another defender on, since he was so quickly given a clean bill of health and whilst Bertrand lost control of the challenge he didn't actually make much contact with his leading leg. That being said, to boo a player going off on a stretcher is a really nasty, ugly thing to do and shouldn't be tolerated.
     
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    From that angle it looks a definite red card.
     
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    Oddly enough from that angle it just looked like two players running at high speed coming together to me!
     
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  13. tomw24

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    If you pause it as Bertand flies in you might change your mind.
     
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  14. I Sorry I Ruined The Party

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    He's got both feet in the air, past and over the ball when he makes contact. His left leg catches Barrow's foot ankle and traps it. His right leg comes into Barrow's knee/thigh pretty hard and then on the follow through he scissors him. Looks like a straight red to me.

    Having said that, it's is odd how it looks so bad from that angle and somewhat innocuous from the other.
     
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    A Referee doesn't have the benefit of pausing it so why should I? Just seen a poll of a hundred people on another site, don't know the demographics but it resulted in 10 saying red 90 saying not. It is a matter of opinion and possibly bias?
     
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  16. AL.

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    From that angle, it does indeed. Strange how much you see Bertrand's right leg catching him from that angle. I think even if the consensus within the club is that he was hard done by there, any appeal will be unsuccessful as many will interpret it as a dangerous tackle - as we have seen on here tonight. It isn't black or white, and I have maintained that I see why he was red carded, although I maintain that there wasn't any malice in it.
     
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    Let's just see what the club decide. If they don't we must assume there were no grounds to or at least very little chance of success.
     
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    For what its worth, the problem with your angles are you dont see Bertrand looking for Barrow and checking his run in order to clatter him.

    Pointless appealling, since it is a reckless yellow minimum and that means the red card stands.
     
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    It looked cynical to me where he was watching Barrow and he delayed his challenge. It had been simmering through he game and it looked like he was out to get him. I can't see an appeal being successful.
     
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    They showed it on MOTD2 and you see him look for the player and then the ball. Bertrand was not himself all match today and he kept looking for free-kicks early on. Odd.
     
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