Match Day Thread Hull City v Barnsley

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I would agree with your son, I don’t expect to win every game. But I do expect professional footballers to put some effort in & TRY to win the game
I honestly dont think its effort thats the main, or anywhere near the main problem.
Injuries and also the resultant constant changes are among the main reasons.
But it's more than 'just' that. Theres simply not enough quality, experience, balance and leadership there. Plus, as said from the start, McCann is a naive manager who is (or worryingly isnt) learning.
Pictures paint a thousands words. The picture after they scored spoke volumes.
Hughton, Warnock are great calls. Even Nige.Unfortunately next to zero chance of that happening. Could see it being Daws as caretaker!
Allams, please **** off.
 
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No leadership off the pitch and no leadership on the pitch. I didn't even know who was captain last night
I think it was Irvine ,who had an absolute stinker of a game. Not going to inspire anybody.
 
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For what its worth...
Form table last 6.
1. WBA 16pts
2. Barnsley / Brum 12pts
4. Fulham / Wigan 11pts
6. PNE / Leeds 10pts
8. Blackburn / Brentford / Charlton / Luton 9pts
12. Cardiff/ Derby / Nottm / QPR 8pts
16. Hudders / Stoke 7pts
18. Bristol / Mwall / Sheff W/ Swansea 6pts
22. Reading 5pts
23. City / Mbro 2pts


If repeated over next 6
All played 41
Top 6...
1. WBA 85
2. Leeds 75
3. Fulham 71
4. Nottm 67
5. PNE 66
6. Brentford 65
Bottom 6.
19. Barnsley / Hudders 46
21. Stoke 45
22. City 43
23. Luton 42
24. Mboro 39
That’s really helpful analysis. If suggests we need two more wins to be pretty safe. Doesn’t sound hard but...

Games 44 and 45 against Wigan and Luton look absolutely pivotal.
 
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You really think that's only half the story? You really think we would have been in this position without selling our two best players and the injuries. I don't think we would have been near the top 6 but I'm sure we wouldn't be in the mess we are in. Supported the club over 50 years and can never remember an injury run like this. Of course, the management/training might be responsible for some of them but he has been incredibly unlucky on that front.
Like i said..half the story...it doesnt account for his shocking subs or refusal to change tactics..his lack of passion on the sidelines...i dont think we would be this dire without players leaving and injuries. But thats not the only reason...half the story........
 
It doesn't just have to be the generation that have only known Championship football. My son is 24, he's had a pass since he was 6 and as far as he's concerned, this is the worst he's seen us, he considers Peter Taylor's League Two and League One promotion teams to have been better.
OK, put it another way. Your son, aged 24 has known and seen more success at Hull City then any other generation in the club's history. Even Peter Taylors teams who you name were promotion winning teams, ie; better days and times to be a supporter of Hull City then today. That was my point. We have a generation who have never experienced a run like this or the threat of relegation to league 1.
 
I've seen the Club through some fairly alarming periods(first game 1969) but the situation we face at the moment rates as one of the worst.I have never before had a problem forking out good money to do the round trip from Glasgow but the effort from this current bunch of useless money grabbers makes the effort un-appealing and our current owners just compound the frustration!!! I couldn't care less if we sank to the lower leagues as long as there's some guts and fight on display.....We're not seeing that at the moment and that worries me!!
 
That’s starting to sound like unsporting behaviour, fielding a striker who might score. We’d never do that.
The biggest threats you face are the slick one two's in the penalty area, diving headers and overhead kicks. Watch out too if you concede 25yd free kicks which can be deadly especially to the bloke in row z pouring his flask.
 
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I don’t know wether we should be trying to get the win now or just try to stop us losing. I am sure now that Batty and Stewart should form the core of our midfield. We desperately need to start winning the ball and retaining it. Our possession stats are just desperate in most games. So it means either we can’t pass or we are just hoofing it anywhere. Long again picking up the blame but what can you expect when he has over twenty shots to deal with. He need better protection from the middle of the park and the defenders. The more of the this he has the less potential for an error. Listened to McCann interview and found it alarming again. He talks about fighting all the time, fight this, good group etc etc., He never talks about quality or retaining the ball. Patience or resilience is unknown to him. He needs to take responsibility for what’s going on for the full 90, this is his team and he has brought in the players. If they were not the players he wanted then he needs to stick up for himself more. Also he ought to set a better example rather than slouching around all the time. For Gods sake get stuck into the players and make them do their jobs as professional footballers should. He remains for me a lower league manager. Its **** in the cold light of today to call for someone’s head but I don’t think he is the man for the job anymore. We need to get rid before it’s too late.
 
I’d be tempted with 4-5-1 for Saturday. But with more natural midfielders on the pitch.

Not sure if we even have 4 fit defenders?

Midfield has to have some energy so Batty/Stewart/Lopes/Irvine/Wilks

Up front Samuelson who looked handy in his few minutes. With Wilks supporting when we have the ball, dropping back into a 5 when we don’t.

No Magennis please Terry - I can’t stomach watching another hapless effort I witnessed last night. Maybe he can replace Long in goal, probably more use in goal than a non scoring centre forward.