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  1. TwoWrights

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    Definitely steakwich from there. :emoticon-0138-think


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    Bag of chips at 10.55 pm and then run to get the last bus at 11.
     
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    Yeah the ketchup was horrible but who cared at 2 in the morning.The rubber mat burgers from outside Romeo’s were dodgy too.
     
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    Think the burgers were boiled in water. Remember eating one about 3am after a good few bevvys. Chewing away until I looked at the bread cake and saw it covered in blood.
    I had been chewing away at my inner cheek. Nearly passed out .
     
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    Great place for a late night scrap after a night in Romeo’s , or try the taxi queue LOL
     
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    Me too, in fact they saved my life. Excellent treatment, both times.
    But just skipped through the report and the findings and my initial thoughts are 'there for the grace of God'....etc.
    Nothing is perfect and nothing is guaranteed, in fact only a few years ago many people with heart problems wouldn't even reach the hospital wards never mind be operated on.
    I have nothing but praise for the people at Castle Hill in this department, we are lucky to have it.
     
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    Not that specific procedure, but off the top of my head I can think of two incidents over the past few years that I know of directly where poor practice killed one person, and another needed to be rushed back to the theatre for a life saving operation due to mistakes made in the initial one. That's not just my opinion, it was the opinion of the medical experts.

    To balance that, I know of many, many others that got excellent care in there too.
     
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  10. balkan tiger

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    Take your car to a mechanic and occasionally they will make a mistake during the repair.
    Call a plumber to fix your heating and occasionally there will be a small leak from a pipe fitting.
    People expect surgeons, doctors and nurses to have a 100% success rate, and never make a mistake.
     
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    I'm not sure you'd feel the same way if a member of your family went in for what should be a basic operation and died due to incompetence or an avoidable mistake. NHS surgeons are paid £150k plus and have around a decades worth of medical training in total to ensure high standards. If they're making mistakes, they shouldn't be in that profession.

    All doctors and nurses should be held professionally responsible for their mistakes. The NHS should be treated as any business with regards to results - they're not doing you a favour, it's centrally funded, but ultimately paid for by us to serve us.
     
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    It’s a difficult thing to balance out extremely high levels of success with operations that go wrong. It’s also easy for me to comment as I have had excellent treatment both at Castle Hill and Hallamshire in Sheffield. 2 x cancer ops including one where I was looked after on the operating bed for 9 hours by an excellent surgeon and team.
    There will always be a margin of error and for those who suffer the worse I feel for them.
    At the end of the day the service and after care is free( I know we pay taxes) but my payments will never cover what I’ve received back.
    We have an aging population who need more care than ever.
    Would help if people stopped smoking, drinking, drug taking and eating **** as much as they do. However that’s another debate.
    As Trumpton said earlier the NHS also saved my life.
     
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    Just watching Rachel Reeves announcing spending plans. Mention of metro links and projects all over the country, West Midlands, Bristol, South Yorkshire, Leeds, Manchester, Newcastle, Sunderland, Middlesbrough. No mention of Hull of course.
    Each announcement was preceded with “and in - home of our Mayor…”. That may explain it. So a city which has elected Labour MPs at every election since WW2 is overlooked again.
     
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    Do You think £150k a year for someone who saves multiple lives is a lot of money.
    I’ve watched footballer on £300k a week miss sitters.
    They are well underpaid for the job they do and nothing is 100 per cent safe. For those who suffer the worse I fully understand they want answers.
     
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    I think it's a good salary for an educated person doing an important job.

    My point wasn't so much about their salary, to be fair. Just that if the police investigation finds malpractice, then those responsible should be prosecuted.

    My father worked in the NHS mostly at Castle Hill for 45 years, until histopathology moved to HRI, with the poster Der Alte actually, so i also have many good stories about what the employees have done, but it shouldn't be used to ignore or brush over avoidable mistakes or incompetence, if this is the case here, which it well might not be.

    As an edit - I think that just because someone does a very important job, doesn't mean that they shouldn't be open to investigation or analysis. If your family member was going in for an op, and you had a choice, would you put them with the surgeon with a 95% success rate or the one with a 35% success rate... It's rhetorical clearly. Obviously with the NHS, these figures aren't so easy to obtain by the general public and also not so easy to interpret as regions will affect the results, but then you'd hope that someone somewhere is looking at these figures and analysing the difference and why and if the figures are way out, those responsible need to be professionally investigated.
     
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    I wouldn’t disagree with the investigations. Certainly wouldn’t agree with anything brushed under the carpet.
    In this day and age re salaries it’s not outstanding. As you said years of training to get there. However competency is the highest level of expectation.
     
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    Agree totally... I watch the operating programmes on TV and think, whatever they want given them it.
     
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    I commend you for sitting and watching her spout..//
     
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    It was painful. Felt sorry for the workers from wherever she was speaking dragged on stage to stand behind her. One in particular looked bored rigid and didn’t join in with the lukewarm applause.
     
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    But you’ve just explained why in your post, and it’s nothing to do with MPs
    The local Mayors have responsibility for transport and every area you mentioned in the list has a Labour Mayor

    So the area that has elected a Reform Mayor at its only opportunity may be overlooked again…and that may explain it.
     
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