Hernandez must be worth £10-15m, and I don't see Nat as £25-30m. I think Nat is about £15m maybe with a few bidding that could nudge up a bit towards £20m max. This would then make a swap deal plus about £5m maybe.
Hernandez for Clyne
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Hernandez must be worth £10-15m, and I don't see Nat as £25-30m. I think Nat is about £15m maybe with a few bidding that could nudge up a bit towards £20m max. This would then make a swap deal plus about £5m maybe.
Again, you're forgetting Clyne only has 1 more year on his contract. That reduces his value.
I was balancing out his remaining contract with:
1. Manure's desperation to sign him
2. Manure's history of over paying
3. Competition from Chelsea etc
Would be good to get enough cash to buy his replacement
The daily mirror version...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...ter-united-transfers-javier-hernandez-5519990
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...ter-united-transfers-javier-hernandez-5519990
That's true, the ungrateful little **** wouldn't sign the one we offered him in January.
There was me feeling relatively sanguine about the whole thing. Now I am reminded once again why I hate the Premier League and its morally bankrupt values.
Clyne can **** right off.
Generally the case, however if two teams start a bidding war that will not effect the price. The likes of Man U will not wait 1 year to get the player they want. A player normally let's his contract run out then he can bargain his own super deal, Clyne going to Utd this summer will see him in the 150 thou a week bracket so he would get his super deal now. Has been a good servant, has a couple of flaws which we exploit next season
As people have already said, the disappointing aspect of this is Clyne's apparent desire to leave as if staying with us isn't even an option. By speaking publicly about a move over the past couple of weeks he has shown a massive amount of disrespect to the club and fans. There are still 6 games to go until the end of the season ffs - be professional and see the job through rather than being another billy-big time prick!
Personally, I think £10-12m + Hernandez would represent great business as long as it doesnt dent the wage bill too much. That will undoubtedly make our squad stronger as I am confident we can find a strong replacement for £10mil or less (I will leave who up to the black box).
I'm not convinced the Hernandez thing will happen though...
Personally, I think £10-12m + Hernandez would represent great business as long as it doesnt dent the wage bill too much. That will undoubtedly make our squad stronger as I am confident we can find a strong replacement for £10mil or less (I will leave who up to the black box).
I'm not convinced the Hernandez thing will happen though...
Has he actually said outright he will be leaving? Only thing ive heard him say is hes leaving contract talk up to
his agent. Which we all know what that means but I wouldn't say is disrespectful.
He is an employee of Southampton Football Club, we didn't make him although we have helped his progress. We have had 3 great seasons from him and he is under contract for a further 1 season. He doesn't owe us anything. If he choses to break contract it will be at the clubs discretion and we will get a sizable fee.
He has been a consummate professional but we don't have a god given right for players to sign new contracts. Saints are an employer just like any business out there.
I know he's a quality player, but I really can't get that excited about Hernandez. That kind of player went out of fashion alongside 442 and it's difficult to see where he'd fit. Surely he'd be on wages that would mean he has to be in the first XI every game, and I can't see us fitting him in without changing our system and shifting one of Mane or Long who we struggle to fit into our system as it is.
I somewhat agree with this. Hernandez doesn't seem to offer too much besides goals and his goal scoring record isn't at the Ian Rush sort of level where you can respond to that criticism with "So you're saying he ONLY scores 30 goals a season?"
It could be if he started all the games, which he likely would with us, rather than being a bit-part player at the big, big clubs.
I doubt he'd get to 30 goals a season. Pedantry aside though, I take your point. I think we need an upgrade on Pelle and Hernandez is certainly the best we've been linked with. I certainly wouldn't be upset if we signed him but signing him would mean changing the way we play.
Mind you, given our current (lack of) goal threat that might not be a bad thing!
If we had a choice, I would much rather have Austin than Hernandez as he scores as many goals but works hard for the team
If were going British strikers then id go for ings. Seems like a decent chap, bonus is being a saints fan.
Aren't they the things that win football matches? And more importantly, isn't scoring goals the hardest thing to do on a football pitch?
I doubt he'll come here though because I doubt we'll be able to get close to his wage demands.
1) swap deals are so rare, when was the last one involving pretty high profile players like Clyne/Hernandez? The last one I can think of was Eto'o and Ibrahimovic and that was like 5(?) years ago and wasn't in England.
2) Hernandez will have more attractive offers
3) Personally would rather have the £15m or whatever than Hernandez and trust the scouting team to spend it wisely
2) Hernandez will have more attractive offers
3) Personally would rather have the £15m or whatever than Hernandez and trust the scouting team to spend it wisely
Well if you read the whole sentence rather than just highlighting one section you'll see my point is that he doesn't offer much except scoring goals and his scoring record isn't so incredible that a team can definitely carry him.
Yes he might score more goals starting more games but playing him would almost certainly mean a change in formation as well - I don't see Hernandez leading the line or filling one of the two wide attacking roles that we currently play so I would think we'd have to switch to playing two up front. I'm just not sure he's so good that we should basically build our team around him.