Here we go again...

originallambrettaman said:
As one of the ten people who run that organisation, it's rather hard for me to not take it personally.
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To the best of my knowledge, I know no members of the trust. I have seen names in various postings but they are merely names to me. I may say I dislike a particular political party but I may have friends who support them. It isn't personal!
 
PLT said:
Dutch mate, you're absolutely obsessed with how the trust should respond to constructive criticism. I see far more of that then I see constructive criticism from anyone. Through our various channels, we get a lot of praise and a few Strov type numpties. If people sent us suggestions or whatever they would be listened to. I think you must know that from your own experiences really.
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You really, really don't want to go there.
 
I don't want to start a new thread but I have a question.
If we stay up do we get £100m from Sky?
If city gets £100m from Sky will Allam reduce Hull City debt to Allamhouse.
Because if he does then his interest receivable will reduce. I believe he earns 5% on the debt.
Can he earn that sort of interest by investing the cash elsewhere? I very much doubt it but there again he is a super duper businessman so maybe he could.
 
Sir Cheshire Ben said:
Firstly it's "Sir Cheshire Ben".

This what you said,

"Since the leading lights of CTWD, a single issue protest group, filled most of the committee places on the newly formed Hull City Supporters Trust, it too has developed largely into a single issue organisation."

This is inaccurate, incorrect, bullshit & bollocks & raises the bar because of.

The role of the moderator is defined quite clearly in the board rules.

7) Moderators

The moderators on all the forums on this site are volunteers. We're just normal posters like everyone else, and we're allowed to have opinions and disagreements with people like everyone else. We just happen to have been given the ability by the administrators to edit and remove posts when it is necessary to make sure the content remains acceptable to the users.

On this forum, as with the rules, all the moderators have been chosen by the users following open threads on who they should be.

From this I read that if a moderator wants to telll somebody they think they're being a ****, then get them told, it's within the rules. They've told me before, obviously in that instance they were wrong but in general they're good at what they do. They don't have to set standards for others to follow or encourage others to join in. FFS it's not "first day at football forum & here's your Moderator buddy"

Your statement was wrong, admit it, live with it, accept the criticism & move on.
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Sir Cheshre. You have your opinions, I have mine. I may disagree with you but I will defend to the death your right to express yours.

(All this and Voltaire. too. What more can anyone want?)
 
over18and legal said:
I don't want to start a new thread but I have a question.
If we stay up do we get £100m from Sky?
If city gets £100m from Sky will Allam reduce Hull City debt to Allamhouse.
Because if he does then his interest receivable will reduce. I believe he earns 5% on the debt.
Can he earn that sort of interest by investing the cash elsewhere? I very much doubt it but there again he is a super duper businessman so maybe he could.
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The new TV deal doesn't come in until the 2016/17 season, so next season we'd get roughly the same as this season.
 
over18and legal said:
I don't want to start a new thread but I have a question.
If we stay up do we get £100m from Sky?
If city gets £100m from Sky will Allam reduce Hull City debt to Allamhouse.
Because if he does then his interest receivable will reduce. I believe he earns 5% on the debt.
Can he earn that sort of interest by investing the cash elsewhere? I very much doubt it but there again he is a super duper businessman so maybe he could.
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He's a businessman so I doubt it
 
PLT said:
Funny that you never mentioned this preference until Allam dreamt it up.

A bit like how you said Barmby should be given a full summer at least, until Allam decided to sack him.

No principles, you just swallow up whatever he says and does because your allegiance to Assem Allam is greater than your allegiance to Hull City.

As fans have Hull City, we should always be united in the love for our team. You love it so much that you prefer an alternative team, but not until a rich man tells you to prefer it. Call yourself a City fan? Pathetic.
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I have this skill of being able to listen to something, then form my own opinion on it. One day, when you grow up, maybe you will too.

I like Dr Allams idea, it was fresh and imo is ahead of the curve with what is required in a major kick up the arse of English football. You might be happy knowing the current top 6 will stay the top 6 for ever, so you can carry on watching them on Sky while we, if we're lucky, yoyo through the leagues.

Barmby had my full backing until he acted like a **** in his bosses office. At that point, he lost it.

I do love the team, I have little attachment and I am sure as hell not as hysterical about the word "City" either.

Call yourself an adult? Pathetic.
 
Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
I didn't say the trust was a single issue group. I said it was perceived as one.


Both you and OLM seem to have missed the point that I'm making.

The issues you hope to be involved in are generated by the comittee. A trust should be actively looking to find out what FANS want, and demonstrating to anyone looking in that they are representative.

I think it also needs to show if it can be effective in working with the club,in representing fans, rather than being a campiagn group forcing the club's hand.

I also think that replies to question from the trust don't need to be so dismissive or defensive. The trust is for fans, it should encourage questions and opinions.

The trust needs to show how their actions are fan, rather than comittee driven, and which fan driven queries they plan to be involved in (name change excepted).
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Well said... **** off Gretton.
 
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Southwest corner said:
Yeah I can see that I didn't even know this board existed before last February
I work with someone just like Happy( sorry Mary Mary quite contrary) Tiger.
He just says the opposite so I've started saying the reverse to what I think and he still says the opposite
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Snap !!! There's a bloke at work who questions everything i say. If i like a tune, he doesn't,if i comment on something in the news,he gives me a another perspective. It's actually quite funny when i say some thing he obviously agrees with, because you can see him searching his mind for a reason to disagree. Then he just goes, Hmmn... <laugh>
 
Happy Tiger said:
I have this skill of being able to listen to something, then form my own opinion on it. One day, when you grow up, maybe you will too.

I like Dr Allams idea, it was fresh and imo is ahead of the curve with what is required in a major kick up the arse of English football. You might be happy knowing the current top 6 will stay the top 6 for ever, so you can carry on watching them on Sky while we, if we're lucky, yoyo through the leagues.

Barmby had my full backing until he acted like a **** in his bosses office. At that point, he lost it.

I do love the team, I have little attachment and I am sure as hell not as hysterical about the word "City" either.

Call yourself an adult? Pathetic.
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English football needs a kick up the arse ? I think you'll find even your favourite businessman will agree,that when the the club finishing bottom next year,will rake in £100m,then English football's doing really rather well.
 
Happy Tiger said:
I have this skill of being able to listen to something, then form my own opinion on it. One day, when you grow up, maybe you will too.

I like Dr Allams idea, it was fresh and imo is ahead of the curve with what is required in a major kick up the arse of English football. You might be happy knowing the current top 6 will stay the top 6 for ever, so you can carry on watching them on Sky while we, if we're lucky, yoyo through the leagues.

Barmby had my full backing until he acted like a **** in his bosses office. At that point, he lost it.

I do love the team, I have little attachment and I am sure as hell not as hysterical about the word "City" either.

Call yourself an adult? Pathetic.
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Go on then, what has he said and when that convinced you that changing the name was a good thing because it would 'give English football the kick up the arse it requires'?

It's funny that you went from never mentioning your view on the inadequacy of the name of our club or your desire for it to be changed, to insisting OLM was lying when he first said Allam wanted to change it, then to being ardently in favour of Hull Tigers when Allam admitted he really was going to try and change it.

How was your view that it will give English football the kick it needs, and increase our chances of being a top 6 club, affected when Allam admitted in a live interview that this is all just a dig at the council? How was it affected by the independent panel's assertion that there is no business case for the change?

While you're at it, what did Barmby do in his boss' office? Do you think the club were lying when they announced he was suspended for comments made in the media? Do you think it was unacceptable that when asked about transfer policy he said "we need to be a bit cuter"? Do you think that line was worthy of being suspended?

Or do you just go along with whatever Allam says and flip your position 180 degrees to suit your loyalty to Assem Allam, over and above loyalty to Hull City, our football club, and its heroes?
 
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over18and legal said:
I come on this board all the time.
I read most of the comments. Some I agree with, some I don't.
I occasionally reply to posts when something gets to me or I feel I can contribute something meaningful to the thread.
I am not up OLM arse in any way. I can think for myself thank you very much.
I am 57, I have seen a lot.
I have attended hundreds of matches (possibly over a thousand, I am buggered to count them all).
As near as dammit i have walked away due to the following reasons:
1) Allams constant lies or changing of mind
2) Price hike
3) Name change
4) Crazy pricing policy (£50, £35) of matches
5) Allams behavior towards the fans
6) Using Barmby as a scapegoat
7) Shoddy treatment of Adam Pearson
8) Just looking at Allam actually sickens me


I can't be arsed to type anymore reasons but I think you get the the picture.

If Asda (add your own retailer) treat you like Allam does with the City supporters then you would shop elsewhere.
Allam knows he can get away with it....but for how long is the question?

I wish he would just sell up and go back to the Melton (or Eqypt) pond from which he came.

Bye Bye Toadface you are not welcome in our common City.
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I love that list of reasons, it reminds me of how a 6 year old would list why they hated eating vegetables.

Best for me was "Changing his mind"!!! :emoticon-0136-giggl:emoticon-0136-giggl:emoticon-0136-giggl
 
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