Gus Poyet

[Smug in Boots]

So you think there's no difference in dirtiness between pulling a players shirt and, say, stamping on someone's shin?

Yeah, of course there is ......... it's just funny that you automatically view Southampton's fouls as 'not dirty'.

Anyone would think you were biased or something ...........

 

[fran-MLs little camera]

It has been noted before that we commit a lot of fouls but collect fewer cards than you'd expect. Most of our fouls are not nasty enough for a card and are in the middle of the pitch...so we are not stopping a goal scoring opportunity but are preventing one from developing. Refs are less likely to give bookings for those. We also tackle more than most, so are also likely to commit fouls.

 

[Joe!]

Yeah, of course there is ......... it's just funny that you automatically view Southampton's fouls as 'not dirty'.

Anyone would think you were biased or something ...........

Biased, and also factually correct, as Fran says.

 

[Smug in Boots]

It has been noted before that we commit a lot of fouls but collect fewer cards than you'd expect. Most of our fouls are not nasty enough for a card and are in the middle of the pitch...so we are not stopping a goal scoring opportunity but are preventing one from developing. Refs are less likely to give bookings for those. We also tackle more than most, so are also likely to commit fouls.

So they're sneaky little fouls that gain an advantage without receiving cards, must take a lot of practice ......... fair enough.

 

[Lovelocum]

Not just for footballers - for example have always been a fan of David Jason, but then a couple of years ago he went and spouted some anti-Europe crap that I found 'most disappointing. Same goes for a load of MPs who I previously respected joining the "no to AV" campaign coming out with the same pathetic drivel for arguements as the Tory right.

So you can't respect someone who has different political opinions?

 

[fran-MLs little camera]

What is AV?

 

[Joe!]

What is AV?

That'll be the "alternative vote" that we had a referendum on a couple of years ago. Wasn't very popular.

 

[ChrisMarsdenFootballGenius]

So you can't respect someone who has different political opinions?

Surprised it took so long for someone to challenge me on that one! I respect David Jason for his acting, but was disappointed with him for that comment as he came out with the tired old "we're being taken over by Europe - losing our independence" argument that I don't believe holds any weight to speak of.

As for the AV stuff, again it was the quality of the arguments that bothered me. Things like "AV will give people with views we don't like more voice" and so on.

Anyway, about last night, I thought it was interesting that although we lost and were disappointed with the performance, the general approach was very similar to the first team and emphasised that the difference between last season and this has just been a few tweaks here and there, not wholesale change.

 

[TheSecondStain]

That'll be the "alternative vote" that we had a referendum on a couple of years ago. Wasn't very popular.

It wasn't very popular because nobody bothered to try to understand it. In fact, it was a hugely missed opportunity for the voter to have some further democracy in this country. Although it wasn't ideal, it was one of the very things that could energise people into voting again.

But no, we tug our forelocks, moan a bit occasionally, and then do what people in power tell us to do. It was ever thus. We are not worthy. God save the Queen.

 

[SAINTDON13]

So they're sneaky little fouls that gain an advantage without receiving cards, must take a lot of practice ......... fair enough.

Lost count last night of fouls against us, where the Referee seemed to play on, then did not bring it back when it was obvious there was no advantage gained, that's down to a lack of histrionics and diving from our players, who seemed to have told to play to the whistle, and a Refreree who doesn't seem to know the advantage rule. The main Press seem to think we should have had a Penalty when Chambers was clearly manhandled, but nothing given as usual.

 

[Jose Fonte baby]

A 42.2% turnout for the AV Referendum shows how poorly it was publicised. We're the only country in Europe to use FPTP and coalitions are common in other European countries.

 

[Joe!]

I voted for AV, but really I don't think it would have been much of an improvement anyway. It sounds to me like a pretty half-arsed reform which would not be nearly as effective as a proper PR system.

 

[Jose Fonte baby]

It was done so the Lib Dems can add something to their short list of things they've done in government.