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Grant McCann

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  1. NewcastleTiger

    NewcastleTiger Well-Known Member

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    That’s true but when you factor in the quality of the rest of the squad he did very well to build a platform for them to succeed with what was behind them.
     
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    I suppose so, but when you have that quality of attacking player it can paper over the cracks of a poor defence by virtue of the ball just not going down there as often, or teams not being prepared to commit to attacking quite so much when they can be hit so effectively on the counter.
     
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    bowen was so good, its unprecedented
     
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  4. NewcastleTiger

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    Very valid point. I think we can say the same for Delap and Philogene this season though, don’t think we can claim a good defence tbh
     
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    you cant even compare philo to bowen though, bowen is england international level
     
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    Absolutely, when Delap and Philogene were fit and firing as a combination I think it contributed to teams giving us a certain level of respect. In more recent times that's really played against us as we've struggled so much with breaking sides down.
     
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    He wasn’t when he played for us ffs<laugh>
     
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    He wasn't when he was with us though? But his scoring rate was phenomenal.
     
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  9. bradymk2

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    no but he was on course for two consecutive 20 goal championship seasons..
    he scored 22
    then he had 16 by January.. when he was sold
    that's ****ing unprecedented
    and the season before that he had 14

    that level is rare as **** hence why he's at england now, he's a class above
    winner in the conference league etc
     
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    Of course that’s relevant, but he still needs a platform by which he can achieve this. Bowen would’ve had 30 by Jan in this team!
     
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    philogene is not even close to bowen yet
    i think we are massively underestimating just how good bowen was and is
    we massively undersold him
    same with robertson etc

    but tbh i dont even want to talk about the ****ing allams

    and mccann is the summary of their awful ownership
    let us forget
     
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  12. NewcastleTiger

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    Bowen was in the grand scheme of things, but he had 18 months on his deal so I think we did okay.

    No one thought Robertson would hit the heights he has done when he left.

    We got way more than we should’ve for Clucas, cracking fee for KLP so it balances out
     
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    i did to be fair, but irregardless
    the allam reign makes me sick
    and i can promise you, rosie will have a far more successful managerial career than grant
     
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    I think he’ll have a decent career.

    He’s one of many managers trying to implement this style outside of the top flight, next season will tell us all we need to know about him long and short term
     
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    there's something in rosie that will propel him to the top
     
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    We got the right manager in the end, but sacking Grant for Shota was an awful decision. The latter was a disaster, not just in the results but the slapdash recruitment under him which wasted a lot of our FFP headroom. Our budget now would be bigger if we hadn't blown so much money on ****e in summer 2022.
     
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    shota was a joke
    it was a massive wakeup call to acun etc
    and youre right, it wasted a lot of time, although rosie wasnt available till autumn 2022 anyway, i think shota was a good thing as it has given acun and tan valuable lessons
     
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    Philogene has 10 in half a season's worth of games.
     
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    If he scores more and does it another 2 years
    Then hes close to bowens level

    And 27 is not half of 46 lad
     
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    Oh you're right it's 58% not 50%, please do forgive me for approximating. <doh>

    Philogene has 16 G+A this season in 27 games, Bowen had 26 G+A in 46. That's not miles apart
     
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