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brb said:
Far bigger scandals going on in football than this nonsense that has been blown all out of proportion to make the EFL look like Billy Big Bollocks.
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Is it cheating?

Or is it a dark art?

I can't quite decide

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On the more important matter of Saints (ironic name considering they're the greatest villains football has ever produced) cheating...

Why would any Saint fan be arsed? It's just avoiding another season of watching them lose every ****ing game.
 
Welshie said:
On the more important matter of Saints (ironic name considering they're the greatest villains football has ever produced) cheating...

Why would any Saint fan be arsed? It's just avoiding another season of watching them lose every ****ing game.
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For next season you’re probably right but you need to get up to have a chance of kicking on and one day living the dream like Bornmuff or having a serious shot at winning a cup.

But longer term it becomes incredibly difficult to get promoted once the parachute money has dried up then you risk drifting along in mid-table like we have for a decade and counting or even doing a Lesta.

Chances are a new manager comes in, a fresh start with a very good squad and they go close to automatic promotion next season. Also a chance they appoint some ****** like they did last summer.
 
Chief said:
Not sure what else they are supposed to do though?

Saints have admitted what they did, so if the championship just said **** it, whatever, Boro would take legal action.

And if Boro now win, Hull will.

Not sure what the **** Wrexham are moaning about though.
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My main issue with this is that EFL have made up the punishment.

Both Leeds United 2019 and Crystal Palace 2014 are on record as having spied on clubs - Your club Man Utd had great concerns under Sir Alex Ferguson of clubs spying on them, there has even been concerns with clubs about drones being used - so to me it demonstrates there was a well established habit of spying on clubs, to which I have alluded since the start of this Southampton fiasco.

What bothers me is where did they suddenly pull this punishment from, booted out the play-off final, denied potential promotion to the Premier League and a four point deduction next season, I can't be arsed to look if they got a fine as well. If we rule break or commit a criminal act, we will have a good idea of the punishment, because it will be detailed somewhere. Bit like if you break the speed limit, fine and points. Southampton didn't (fine at best).

It's the equivalent of a Kangaroo Court, yeah rules clearly say you must not xyz, now we just need to make up a punishment to set an example of them, because they've admitted it and other clubs are crying - IF someone did this again, I'd say fair play you knew the punishment from Southampton and yeah it's a great deterrent but in the first instance it's about balance of rights, like the minimum standards in ACAS and if you haven't written the measures adequately you shouldn't be sitting round a table just making them up like the EFL, it's not the way you conduct a professional business and imho it's how corruption comes about when there is not clarity.

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brb said:
My main issue with this is that EFL have made up the punishment.

Both Leeds United 2019 and Crystal Palace 2014 are on record as having spied on clubs - Your club Man Utd had great concerns under Sir Alex Ferguson of clubs spying on them, there has even been concerns with clubs about drones being used - so to me it demonstrates there was a well established habit of spying on clubs, to which I have alluded since the start of this Southampton fiasco.

What bothers me is where did they suddenly pull this punishment from, booted out the play-off final, denied potential promotion to the Premier League and a four point deduction next season, I can't be arsed to look if they got a fine as well. If we rule break or commit a criminal act, we will have a good idea of the punishment, because it will be detailed somewhere. Bit like if you break the speed limit, fine and points. Southampton didn't (fine at best).

It's the equivalent of a Kangaroo Court, yeah rules clearly say you must not xyz, now we just need to make up a punishment to set an example of them, because they've admitted it and other clubs are crying - IF someone did this again, I'd say fair play you knew the punishment from Southampton and yeah it's a great deterrent but in the first instance it's about balance of rights, like the minimum standards in ACAS and if you haven't written the measures adequately you shouldn't be sitting round a table just making them up like the EFL, it's not the way you conduct a professional business and imho it's how corruption comes about when there is not clarity.

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**** happens, but at least Pompey are above them in the (next) league again.
 
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