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they were allowed to, that’s why they had a massive wage bill.

Again if they were allowed they would have bought better players and would not have been relegated.

Nobody is growing success out of a tomato bag.
 
Even Newcastle were fairly successful until TV money. You mentioned commercial growth and I answered the question.

when was that successful period. Was it when you were bankrolled by John Hall in the mid to late 90’s?

Big money moves for Speed, Peacock, Sir Les, Tino, shearer…even Cole was a big money signing g at the time
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Having already spent money and continued. I know people like to bullshit themselves, but without money none of that ever happens.

There's a reason why certain clubs wanted to run away from competition and its because they know fine well they ain't running classes.

Spot on Munse - and the Big clubs can raid other clubs academies too ... coz they can offer wages beyond anything the incumbent can ...
 
Again if they were allowed they would have bought better players and would not have been relegated.

Nobody is growing success out of a tomato bag.

they spent and had a rich backer. They built a training ground with relaxation pods etc.


they just didn’t do enough to grow commercial revenue. They were as we are told, the 4th most successful English club over the last decade and a half.

why couldn’t Newcastle grow when backed by Hall
 
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when was that successful period. Was it when you were bankrolled by John Hall in the mid to late 90’s?

Big money moves for Speed, Peacock, Sir Les, Tino, shearer…even Cole was a big money signing g at the time
E.

We sold Sir Les just as the money went big. No real danger of relegation before the season we went down then never recovered while absolute ****e like Coventry and Southampton escaped by the skin of their teeth every year.
 
Even Newcastle were fairly successful until TV money. You mentioned commercial growth and I answered the question.
No I have consistently said, up until a few years ago when footballing money and chasing the dream was having a negative impact on clubs (going into administration etc.), the rules were the same for all. Complaining that for most of a club’s existence they haven’t been able to take advantage of it, it not someone else’s fault, it’s the club’s relative mismanagement.
 
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when was that successful period. Was it when you were bankrolled by John Hall in the mid to late 90’s?

Big money moves for Speed, Peacock, Sir Les, Tino, shearer…even Cole was a big money signing g at the time
E.

That was a very small period of time like 3 or 4 years in which we went from almost being relegated to the old 3rd division to almost to winning the title, so money equals being better at playing football.

If you look at a small period for time it will give you less information than a larger one, so full history is the best source for interpretation.

The all time biggest spending clubs all just happen to be the most successful.
 
We sold Sir Les just as the money went big. No real danger of relegation before the season we went down then never recovered while absolute ****e like Coventry and Southampton escaped by the skin of their teeth every year.

big clubs just splashing the wages and taking the best players sadly.
 
Really, there’s no evidence that that would have been the case. Remember, when you were being ridiculed by Fosse because there new training ground would attract superstars, how did that pan out?

Look at man City then or Chelsea.
 
That was a very small period of time like 3 or 4 years in which we went from almost being relegated to the old 3rd division to almost to winning the title in around, so money equals being better at playing football.

If you look at a small period for time it will give you less information than a larger one, so full history is the best source for interpretation.

The all time biggest spending clubs all just happen to be the most successful.

so Newcastle were not able to capitalise and grow.
Other clubs did.

United success stems from Martin Edwards and his commercial forward thinking. He grew the brand.
 
big clubs just splashing the wages and taking the best players sadly.

He had to go. I think we held onto him far longer than would be the case now. Nearly went to United I believe.

One of the few Prem era players to score back-to-back hat tricks and did so over Easter weekend at Goodison and Forest.
 
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That was a very small period of time like 3 or 4 years in which we went from almost being relegated to the old 3rd division to almost to winning the title, so money equals being better at playing football.

If you look at a small period for time it will give you less information than a larger one, so full history is the best source for interpretation.

The all time biggest spending clubs all just happen to be the most successful.

Again, as I have continued to say, you could have also done the same and so could have others like the Leicester. Just because the clubs you whine about did it better than yours, doesn’t make them the villians.
 
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