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It was straight off a labour mp’s twitter account.

Not photoshopped.

It’s entirely relevant as these are the pieces of **** that we’re voting for not only to run the country but to steal a big fat piss take off a salary off the public.
 
Don't know when the thread closes so I'd just like to thank everyone who has contributed and been respectful of the wide range of opinions. I always follow elections and have found this interesting, City fans are a broad church. Thanks to Leon for a good innings on behalf of Labour but nothing would ever convince me to vote for them, I've backed Michelle Dewberry today. Just hope the next parliament manages to heal a lot of the division in our country and we achieve peace and prosperity. Cheers.

Gonna have to be quick here but thanks to you too and to everyone who contributed.

I think it's been pretty civilised too. I honestly learn from these kind of threads (though admittedly glad they are few and far between due to the time they take up). And it's evermore useful, to me anyway, to find out what people think, how they think and why.
 
My opinion for what it’s worth

OLM didn’t know he was posting a photoshopped image originally posted online by a racist trying to rig the election.

He has the benefit of my doubt certainly.
Apologies to @originallambrettaman and @Obadiah

with more digging I’m less convinced it was photoshopped

I don’t care (or think it was on the wrong foot) mind you but that’s different

(once went to a gig with Mrs Tash wearing different trainers. She’d make a fine Home Secretary)
 
Vote Labour. Join the good guys.

Vote Labour. Labour get in. What happens 31//01/2020?

What deal does Corbo have in mind? Who is their negotiator in Brussels?

More damaging political gridlock ahead.

Disastrous if the Tories don't win with a majority to enable them to get Brexit done.
 
At uni I loved learning about anarchism as described by Proudhon - So I thought I'd just have another quick look on wikipedia for an overview as I've forgotten most of it.

"whoever lays his hand on me to govern me is a usurper and tyrant, and I declare him my enemy"

"To be GOVERNED is to be watched, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, regulated, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, checked, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right nor the wisdom nor the virtue to do so. To be GOVERNED is to be at every operation, at every transaction noted, registered, counted, taxed, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, authorized, admonished, prevented, forbidden, reformed, corrected, punished. It is, under pretext of public utility, and in the name of the general interest, to be place[d] under contribution, drilled, fleeced, exploited, monopolized, extorted from, squeezed, hoaxed, robbed; then, at the slightest resistance, the first word of complaint, to be repressed, fined, vilified, harassed, hunted down, abused, clubbed, disarmed, bound, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot, deported, sacrificed, sold, betrayed; and to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, derided, outraged, dishonored. That is government; that is its justice; that is its morality"

I don't think anarchism would work but I do retain a romantic ideal towards it.

Agreed. There is a big misconception about what anarchism actually is.

I remember studying 19th Century Spanish anarchism too during my undergraduate degree - many years ago.
 
Vote Labour. Labour get in. What happens 31//01/2020?

What deal does Corbo have in mind? Who is their negotiator in Brussels?

More damaging political gridlock ahead.

Disastrous if the Tories don't win with a majority to enable them to get Brexit done.
1. There would be an extension to allow time for a second referendum
2. Probably Kier Starner
 
1. There would be an extension to allow time for a second referendum
2. Probably Kier Starner

Indulge me here.

What is the point of a second referendum?

You know the pointlessness of this. It will not take the country forward at all, probably create even larger divisions regardless of the outcome.

Will Starmer or whoever get a good deal for GB given that the EU know his party wants to stay in?

Labour have had the luxury of screwing up our Brexit without having to shoulder any of the burden of sorting out the mess.

Now if they got elected, it would be their turn to square the circle and feel the heat.
 
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Let’s face it peoples. We shouldn’t of had an election 2 years after the last one. Our political will is all over the place. However we get what we get tomorrow in hope that some good can come from this. I am an believer in a PR system where all votes count. I’m still waiting for the day. For what it’s worth I think there would of been a Labour Government tomorrow but for another leader. You can’t make change unless you are in government and this is going to be an opportunity lost. Tomorrow starts again.... well tomorrow..
 
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Indulge me here.

What is the point of a second referendum?

You know the pointlessness of this. It will not take the country forward at all, probably create even larger divisions regardless of the outcome.

Will Starmer or whoever get a good deal for GB given that the EU know his party wants to stay in?

Labour have had the luxury of screwing up our Brexit without having to shoulder any of the burden of sorting out the mess.

Now if they got elected, it would be their turn to square the circle and feel the heat.
I’m not posting my political view on here

I was merely answering your questions that’s all.
 
Vote Labour. Labour get in. What happens 31//01/2020?

What deal does Corbo have in mind? Who is their negotiator in Brussels?

More damaging political gridlock ahead.

Disastrous if the Tories don't win with a majority to enable them to get Brexit done.

My best guess is Corbyn has already negotiated the deal. We leave the EU but stay in the single market. Basically the Norway option. Its likely to be signed off quickly by the EU and a Labour majority in parliament. We'll be out by next Christmas unless the vote in the referendum is to stay in.
 
Would like to have seen him talk to Andrew Neil but you are right he wasn’t that daft.

Yep he had the good sense to realise he would get battered.

Ditto those **** debates where 5 or 6 shrill parties shout over each other , and all end up diminished in the eyes of the viewer.

Think even Corbs has wised up to that one now, no serious top table politician would risk getting involved in these daft events.
 
Vote Labour. Labour get in. What happens 31//01/2020?

What deal does Corbo have in mind? Who is their negotiator in Brussels?

More damaging political gridlock ahead.

Disastrous if the Tories don't win with a majority to enable them to get Brexit done.

Tory don’t have a plan to get Brexit done either though. That’s the problem. Farage isn’t even happy with their Brexit “deal” and he’s the person that wants Brexit most.
 
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