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Has our political election now reached rock bottom when we genuinely don’t know what we see on social media is true or not. Anyone with a mobile can whip up something, put it out there and cause chaos. The amount of bullshit I have seen posted and followed over the years, political or not is embarrassing. No respect at all. Once upon a time there was politicians on all sides who where seen as decent regardless of who you voted for. It’s ****ing chaos out there now.

I have no idea the true story regarding the boy in the NHS photo. It’s quite possibly true. We are heading towards gridlock again on Thursday and God help us:

It's even worse when traditional media TV radio and newspapers (the ones you used to be able to trust) just go with what they find on social media. Journalists cost money and everyone is cutting back.
 
True but I'd be wary of all polls like that. Often rigged to pressure opinion than represent it.

Plus, in the heat of an emotive campaign, anything can happen.

If the SNP win big in 2020 - it will turn up a few notches.

I live in a constituency that was won by only 300 or so votes last time, and it's neck and neck this. I've been called five times by polling companies over the past month or so, and the manner in which they ask their questions is shameful. Today's (from the Conservative Party) was "Do you favour leaving the EU in the next few months and ending the current uncertainty and negotiations, or would you favour delaying this process even further?". I simply refused to answer. (I was also asked who I preferred "Boris or Jeremy Corbyn?" No Johnson attached, somewhat deliberately I'd imagine). That said, at least the Conservatives were honest that it was them ringing me. When Survation called me a few week ago - with a load of weighted questions, though not quite as bad as the above - they kept telling me how the Lib Dems were polling way in front in my constituency (they're not). When I asked who commissioned them to conduct the poll they were very evasive. I eventually discovered that it was... Rebeka... err... the Lib Dems. Polls are useful to an extent but - as with all sections of the media - they will ver, very frequently have an agenda. And they won't care how they get you to say or think what they want you to think, as long as you say or think thing their way.
 
It's even worse when traditional media TV radio and newspapers (the ones you used to be able to trust) just go with what they find on social media. Journalists cost money and everyone is cutting back.
Correct. No one listens to educated experts on anything anymore. They would rather follow some celebrity or faceless keyboard warrior..
 
I'm seeing 'Get Brexit Done' left right and Bransholme centre.

But even if the Tories win a 50 seat majority Brexit won't be done for years.

The last trade the EU negotiated was the CETA with Canada. That took from 2009 to 2016 to conclude.

The last trade deal US negotiated was KORUS FTA with South Korea. That took from 2006 to 2012.

Add into the fact that the US actively what no deal and the EU want a deal with UK because of Ireland.

I think with the Tories you'll be lucky to have 'Brexit Done' by 2030.

As long as it takes....important thing is we GTF out.
 
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I'm seeing 'Get Brexit Done' left right and Bransholme centre.

But even if the Tories win a 50 seat majority Brexit won't be done for years.

The last trade the EU negotiated was the CETA with Canada. That took from 2009 to 2016 to conclude.

The last trade deal US negotiated was KORUS FTA with South Korea. That took from 2006 to 2012.

Add into the fact that the US actively what no deal and the EU want a deal with UK because of Ireland.

I think with the Tories you'll be lucky to have 'Brexit Done' by 2030.

The difference is, that we have a deal agreed in the short term, which at least moves us forward and removes some uncertainty and hopefully some form of that deal will be made permanent. It's in everybody's interest to sort it quickly.

What the opposition is offering, is starting all over again and holding another referendum, which will quite obviously take far longer.
 
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