Off Topic General Election Special

[Quill]

Has anyone posted anything positive about the Labour manifesto?? That's not sarcasm it's a serious question

No idea, I haven't, but I haven't properly read it so I can't comment on it and don't want to comment on something I've only read excerpts of.

I believe some posts have been made on here in regards to the Labour manifesto, but you'll have to go looking through all the petty squabbling by a certain few over the dozens of pages previous to this.

 

[Quill]

Hi Quill,

For what it's worth, the Tory government has done relatively very well on environmental issues the last 9 years and many of their proposals, under Gove and allegedly Symmonds, are radical in comparison to the rest of Europe/world, apart from scandi countries.

A fair answer, and nice to see someone saying something without having to resort to acting superior or being vindictive about someone on here or elsewhere.


This thread is much better now [NAME REDACTED] isn't posting on it.

 

[originalminority]

Labour leaflet promises to 'scrap tuition fees'. What about the generation of graduates with large student debt, will there be a compensation package for them like the WASPI women are being promised?

 

[Quill]

Labour leaflet promises to 'scrap tuition fees'. What about the generation of graduates with large student debt, will there be a compensation package for them like the WASPI women are being promised?

Good, scrap them - as a member of that generation with large student debt, most of us with pay **** all towards them, and you have to be earning a pretty decent wage to even start paying it anyways.

I imagine that the government isn't getting massive amounts of money back from them regardless. If I'm wrong, fair enough, but from my experience, very few people I know are actually paying anything towards theirs.

 

[brownbagtiger]

Hi Quill,

For what it's worth, the Tory government has done relatively very well on environmental issues the last 9 years and many of their proposals, under Gove and allegedly Symmonds, are radical in comparison to the rest of Europe/world, apart from scandi countries.

Could you expand on that? When I think of environmental issues, I think of fracking - the recent moratorium was not a ban as such, and gave me the impression that it was just to get us past the election before it starts up again.

 

[Ron Burguvdy]

Hi Quill,

For what it's worth, the Tory government has done relatively very well on environmental issues the last 9 years and many of their proposals, under Gove and allegedly Symmonds, are radical in comparison to the rest of Europe/world, apart from scandi countries.

Of course it could be more Media falsehood ... however

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/dark-side-nordic-model-191205102101208.html

 

[originallambrettaman]

Good, scrap them - as a member of that generation with large student debt, most of us with pay **** all towards them, and you have to be earning a pretty decent wage to even start paying it anyways.

I imagine that the government isn't getting massive amounts of money back from them regardless. If I'm wrong, fair enough, but from my experience, very few people I know are actually paying anything towards theirs.

Last year the government collected £2.5b in student loan repayments and the total outstanding currently stands at over £120b, which is rather a lot to just write off. The government expects that only about a third of student loans will ever be paid off in full.

 

[brownbagtiger]

I am genuinely enjoying this thread, and hoping it may generate a bit more light than heat in view of recent mod activity. Most of my friends in real life and on social media have similar views to me, so I don't get the chance to have a proper political discussion with people who hold different opinions. I try and take the view that we all want the best for ourselves, each other and the country but may disagree on what form that may take and on our priorities and on how to achieve it.

Regarding politicians, I take all of them with a pinch of salt, but I have heard some in the flesh and some come over much better than others. For example, both Graham Stewart and Emma Hardy seem to know their constituencies very well, work hard to promote them in Westminster and make themselves available/accountable to their constituents. I've been happy to have them as my MPs when I've lived in their constituencies. To answer a previous poster, I attended a husting at a previous election, and Graham Stewart was far and away the best of the lot, to my disappointment as a natural Labour voter. I can only presume that Beverley & Holderness is such a solid blue that the other parties only put up a token fight and save their high quality candidates for other places.

 

[Charon]

if you're under 25 and don't vote Labour, you have no heart - if you're over 25 and vote Labour you have no brain

 

[Quill]

if you're under 25 and don't vote Labour, you have no heart - if you're over 25 and vote Labour you have no brain

But what about 25 year olds?

 

[Mr Hatem]

But what about 25 year olds?

Lib Dem

 

[Quill]

Lib Dem

****ing hell, poor bastards.

 

[dennisboothstash]

If we leave it means leaving the customs union was on a leaflet the government posted to every household advising us the best option was to remain in this once in a lifetime referendum. Strangely many people claim they were unaware of that fact.

You believed a Govt marketing pamphlet...

My top 50 list of things I believe

1. The Law
2. Legal interpretation of what laws actually mean.
3. That VAR is a bad thing
4-48. Other believable stuff, proven by evidence
49. That Santa exists
Joint 50. Things written in political party’s marketing pamphlets / Things said by the Allams

hope that helps

 

[Ric Glasgow]

But what about 25 year olds?

Lib Dem obviously

 

[Mr Hatem]

You believed a Govt marketing pamphlet...

My top 50 list of things I believe

1. The Law
2. Legal interpretation of what laws actually mean.
3. That VAR is a bad thing
4-48. Other believable stuff, proven by evidence
49. That Santa exists
Joint 50. Things written in political party’s marketing pamphlets / Things said by the Allams

hope that helps

You do realise you are replying to someone who isn't on here now?

 

[dennisboothstash]

You do realise you are replying to someone who isn't on here now?

I didn’t realise until after I posted no

not to worry

 

[Amin Arrears]

if you're under 25 and don't vote Labour, you have no heart - if you're over 25 and vote Labour you have no brain

No matter what age you are if you don’t vote labour you’re a greedy, selfish, evil ****.

A none vote for labour is by default a vote for the selfservatives.

I actually had an old friend have a right paddy at me and delete me on Facebook because I said I was going to draw a dick on my vote paper again. The above is what he said to me

Good riddance to him.

 

[AlRawdah]

Anyways, we're up to 41 pages now without someone posting something positive about the Tory manifesto without mentioning Labour.

Here you go Quill.

"We will give city regions the funding to upgrade their bus, tram and train services to make them as good as London’s, with more frequent, better-integrated services, more electrification, modern buses and trains and smart ticketing – such as the vision proposed by Andy Street for the West Midlands."

Odd that it had to me that posted this, but that's Tory sheep for ya!

 

[Quill]

Here you go Quill.

"We will give city regions the funding to upgrade their bus, tram and train services to make them as good as London’s, with more frequent, better-integrated services, more electrification, modern buses and trains and smart ticketing – such as the vision proposed by Andy Street for the West Midlands."

Odd that it had to me that posted this, but that's Tory sheep for ya!

Took long enough, but we got there!

Now I can shut the **** up about this, thank god.

 

[AlRawdah]

Labour leaflet promises to 'scrap tuition fees'. What about the generation of graduates with large student debt, will there be a compensation package for them like the WASPI women are being promised?

It's a good question but the circumstances are different. When students incurred their debts, they at least knew full well that was the deal. When WASPI women were paying taxes and building up their pensions, they had no idea that their pension age would be shifted years/decades later, with no recourse (up to now, at least).